Rep Nancy Mace

[Fireballer 2,582]

14 minutes ago, squistion said:

One doesn't have to dig to know that the percentage of trans who commit acts of violence is a really small percentage of the trans population (or someone would be posting those numbers and posting them regularly in the trans bashing treads in this forum). 

 

55 minutes ago, squistion said:

They never have any numbers when talking about violence committed by trans folks or violence committed against trans.

You claimed I was wrong about this yesterday.  So, please, as I said yesterday, dig beyond activist websites.
Danger, you may get triggered to also find out that some stats show that trans people are LESS prone to be victims of homocide  than the general pop.  Sure seems like grounds for their own Remembrance Day for sure.  

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

So no real numbers so far I see....

Again- I am ready to see a number that indicates the size of the violent nature

[squistion 1,621]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

You claimed I was wrong about this yesterday.  So, please, as I said yesterday, dig beyond activist websites.
Danger, you may get triggered to also find out that some stats show that trans people are LESS prone to be victims of homocide  than the general pop.  Sure seems like grounds for their own Remembrance Day for sure.  

I am sure "some stats" do show that. 

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28 minutes ago, squistion said:

I am sure "some stats" do show that. 

Great deflection by the uninformed.  By your response, l can see you’re still gobbling the activist “studies”. You know you’re cry of “that’s not true” yesterday was wrong.

[squistion 1,621]

4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Great deflection by the uninformed.  By your response, l can see you’re still gobbling the activist “studies”. You know you’re cry of “that’s not true” yesterday was wrong.

Oh, the irony. 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

Why the name calling? it's simple to provide stats.

[Fireballer 2,582]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Why the name calling? it's simple to provide stats.

You keep saying this I guess because you dont understand how crime stats are recorded or you’re just trolling. 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

27 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

You keep saying this I guess because you dont understand how crime stats are recorded or you’re just trolling. 

I'm not trolling. I'm asking a simple question- if it is such a widespread problem there should be alarming stats on it. There are stats on every other type of crime under the sun yet this one is "hidden"

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6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not trolling. I'm asking a simple question- if it is such a widespread problem there should be alarming stats on it. There are stats on every other type of crime under the sun yet this one is "hidden"

Don't be dense, you know all those liberal cops and DA's are totally white-washing the stats. 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Don't be dense, you know all those liberal cops and DA's are totally white-washing the stats. 

We know how many shoplifting arrests there are a year but we don't know how many transwomen assaults. 

[squistion 1,621]

20 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not trolling. I'm asking a simple question- if it is such a widespread problem there should be alarming stats on it. There are stats on every other type of crime under the sun yet this one is "hidden"

So one would think. 

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20 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

There are stats on every other type of crime under the sun yet this one is "hidden"

Ok, so I guess it’s that you don’t understand how crime stats are collected. 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Ok, so I guess it’s that you don’t understand how crime stats are collected. 

Let's say I don't. Explain.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,007]

48 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Don't be dense, you know all those liberal cops and DA's are totally white-washing the stats. 

Ha.  This guy thinks the cop takes the report and that’s it, stat counted.

[Fireballer 2,582]

31 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Let's say I don't. Explain.

The short answer is that it’s not collected and no one is stupid enough to do it openly.  When crime data is collected, it’s done via database obviously.  Each crime that you claim has easily obtainable statistics, is derived from a specific statute at the state level, and collectively as “Homicide, “Larceny”, etc at the federal level. That’s why they are easily found. There is no “xxx crime by trans” statute that I’m aware of and there’s no “trans” checkbox.

As far as perps go, unlike race and age, gender ID is not collected by UCR.  Gender is, but it will be concluded by what’s on your ID.  Even, if a female is recorded as a male, there’s no further differentiation that it’s a trans person.  A police department would have to decide to track it on their own, and obviously that’s a political nightmare. Whether done secretly or openly, tracking gender ID would be met with significant outcry.  

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

18 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

The short answer is that it’s not collected and no one is stupid enough to do it openly.  When crime data is collected, it’s done via database obviously.  Each crime that you claim has easily obtainable statistics, is derived from a specific statute at the state level, and collectively as “Homicide, “Larceny”, etc at the federal level. That’s why they are easily found. There is no “xxx crime by trans” statute that I’m aware of and there’s no “trans” checkbox.

As far as perps go, unlike race and age, gender ID is not collected by UCR.  Gender is, but it will be concluded by what’s on your ID.  Even, if a female is recorded as a male, there’s no further differentiation that it’s a trans person.  A police department would have to decide to track it on their own, and obviously that’s a political nightmare. Whether done secretly or openly, tracking gender ID would be met with significant outcry.  

Okay....how many bathroom assaults occur in a year by anyone. What do the database numbers show?

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26 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Okay....how many bathroom assaults occur in a year by anyone. What do the database numbers show?

I’m guessing they only collect type of occupancy such as residence, church, convenience store, etc. Even if provided, how would you interpret it?  What number would be actionable?  Like, if Jonny is speaking out of turn in class, once a week is no big deal.  Once a day? Three times a day?  When would you call his parents?  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,007]

Yeah, there’s a box on the police report for bathroom. 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

56 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I’m guessing they only collect type of occupancy such as residence, church, convenience store, etc. Even if provided, how would you interpret it?  What number would be actionable?  Like, if Jonny is speaking out of turn in class, once a week is no big deal.  Once a day? Three times a day?  When would you call his parents?  

I mean someone talking out of turn in class is far less serious an issue. I wouldn't call their parents after the first time but obviously a sexual assault is different.

My point is this- all stats show most abuse of kids is by someone who is not a stranger to them. Most sexual assaults (something like 70% according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics) occur in a residence. The best I can find is that 10% of sexual assaults occur in a closed, public location. Bathrooms would be a part of this I'd assume.

The simple fact is you are considerably less likely to be sexually attacked in a bathroom than anywhere else and I'd venture the level of trans assaults in a bathroom is relatively small. Any number more than 0 is bad- but like...we accept guns right...or any other number of bad things where the number is more than zero. 

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2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

Don't be dense, you know all those liberal cops and DA's are totally white-washing the stats. 

I mean, you're really going to say this after what happened with election, Biden's dementia and leftist media being exposed as propaganda?  Even liberals are upset that they've been misled this entire time.

So, YES, they most likely are white-washing the stats because it was LITERALLY just proven that they are. 

[Voltaire 4,867]

7 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Genuinely curious- how many cases are there of a transwoman sexually attacking a female in a bathroom?

I don't know. There's all those rapes in female prisons. Jessica Yaniv's existence revolves around sexual assualt. There was that tranny that assaulted the girl in thar Laudon County, Virginia school, changed schools, and assaulted another girl at the new school. There was the Oklahoma girl. There's all the stiff dingdongs flapping around in spas and locker rooms in vile blue communities around the country. This insanity will end soon enough: in two months, the country will stop catering to the mentally ill and start protecting girls and women.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,007]

The DOJ just had to revise their crime stats upwards, again. Don’t Stop Believing. 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

I don't know. There's all those rapes in female prisons. Jessica Yaniv's existence revolves around sexual assualt. There was that tranny that assaulted the girl in thar Laudon County, Virginia school, changed schools, and assaulted another girl at the new school. There was the Oklahoma girl. There's all the stiff dingdongs flapping around in spas and locker rooms in vile blue communities around the country. This insanity will end soon enough: in two months, the country will stop catering to the mentally ill and start protecting girls and women.

 

There's a lot of like non specifics in this. But let's be fair and say there are not the level of sexual assaults by transsexuals' that warrants the amount of oxygen and head space it takes up for people. Not saying the number is zero, but it is not to the level people want it to be.

The double assault by the Virginia person feels like just a psycho individual rather than indicative of the whole group. 

[Voltaire 4,867]

58 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

There's a lot of like non specifics in this. But let's be fair and say there are not the level of sexual assaults by transsexuals' that warrants the amount of oxygen and head space it takes up for people. Not saying the number is zero, but it is not to the level people want it to be.

The double assault by the Virginia person feels like just a psycho individual rather than indicative of the whole group. 

I agree that there is too much oxygen and head space dedicated to this. That's why when it gets shoved back in the box and buried under a nuclear waste dump in two months, it should be left there permanently. 

[Death 89]

Pity bump.

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Lol.

Imagine acting like stats are needed when it comes to deciding whether dudes should be allowed in the girls bathroom. 

Hahahaha. Idiots. 

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6 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Okay....how many bathroom assaults occur in a year by anyone. What do the database numbers show?

Keep your Trannies on your side of the road. 

[lickin_starfish 1,736]

When I was very young, I was in a park bathroom taking a leak. A faggit pedo came in and told me to show him my dik. It wasn't a tranny, but bathroom assaults do occur. 

Lucky for me, the faggit only wanted to see my 5 year old junk, and didn't get handsy.

[Mike Honcho 4,648]

I'm glad Nancy was able to find a way to push her way back into the national spotlight...must have been a rough 10 days with everyone talking about all the nominees.  

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2021 Nancy Grace

House Speaker Mike Johnson on Wednesday announced his support for the resolution in a statement: “All single-sex facilities in the Capitol and House Office Buildings — such as restrooms, changing rooms, and locker rooms — are reserved for individuals of that biological sex,” adding, “Women deserve women’s only spaces.”

Shortly after she took office, Mace framed herself as a pro-LGBT, social moderate.

I, for one, am surprised to see Mace launching this culture war crusade, because when I interviewed her in 2021, shortly after she took office, she framed herself as a pro-LGBT, social moderate.

“I strongly support LGBTQ rights and equality,” Mace told me at the time. “No one should be discriminated against.”

“I have friends and family that identify as LGBTQ,” she explained. “Understanding how they feel and how they’ve been treated is important. Having been around gay, lesbian, and transgender people has informed my opinion over my lifetime.”

 

 

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1 hour ago, lickin_starfish said:

When I was very young, I was in a park bathroom taking a leak. A faggit pedo came in and told me to show him my dik. It wasn't a tranny, but bathroom assaults do occur. 

Imagine, Pedocrats are OK with Men using the same bathrooms as their daughters. What's the justification?? They're sick people  

 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

From 2016:

 

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,318]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

From 2016:

 

 

Yeah, until your side decided to push the issue.  It went from "we just want people to call us by the names we give ourselves" to "we DEMAND access to all women's spaces, require everyone to give us everything we want, demand that everyone pretend we're women and not men and child surgeries for everyone!".

Had you left it to the "we just want respect" it would have been fine but, as usual, give your side an inch and then they want to take over the world.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,007]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yeah, until your side decided to push the issue.  It went from "we just want people to call us by the names we give ourselves" to "we DEMAND access to all women's spaces, require everyone to give us everything we want, demand that everyone pretend we're women and not men and child surgeries for everyone!".

Had you left it to the "we just want respect" it would have been fine but, as usual, give your side an inch and then they want to take over the world.

Dont forget mutilating kids that the likes of Mooney are ok with. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

the likes of Mooney are ok with

I think he's a school teacher 

[jerryskids 6,096]

These discussions always focus on bathrooms, but they also mentioned changing rooms and locker rooms.  These latter two are a hard stop for me.  If you disagree, you don't have a female in your life.