COVID leaked from Wuhan lab, social distancing 'not based on science,' select committee finds

[Fnord 1,664]

5 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

The subcommittee report reads like some partisan nonsense. Not saying it is, but pointing out how it reads. 

Agreed. I'm not going to plow through 500 pages, but after reading the summary, which neatly points out (justifiably so) errors that the Biden admin made, but only mentions Trump in glowing terms, despite what we all know happened.

Whatever. As someone that was required to wear a mask all day, every day, at work for ~2 years, it wasn't a big deal. Do what you have to do to protect the vulnerable. It's easy to look back with 20/20 hindsight, but I vividly remember those first few months, and nobody knew shlt. We were doing all sorts of weird stuff, like wiping down groceries, because nobody knew how to deal with it. Possibly partly due to Trump shutting down the pandemic task force, which was also not mentioned in the summary of that report.

[IGotWorms 4,028]

51 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Name one thing you’ve been correct about in the past 5 years. You are still reeling from the old lady leaving ya.

I was right when I said you were a faggut who enjoys taking 20 c0cks at a highway rest stop 

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

I was right when I said you were a faggut who enjoys getting gang banged at highway truck stops

Not a lot of truck stops near the housing authority buildings

[IGotWorms 4,028]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Not a lot of truck stops near the housing authority buildings

@Alias Detective doesn’t really care where it’s at, as long as his assh0le stays loose

[jbycho 209]

12 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I was right when I said you were a faggut who enjoys taking 20 c0cks at a highway rest stop 

Wow. Aren't you the intellectual. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,051]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

No I wouldn't....I don't need to turn everything into something. Children do that....kind of like when people say a virus was to get back at Trump...(that's how you come back full circle to the topic at hand)

I believe wholeheartedly that the WEF is trying to control everything. Trump is one that stands in the way 

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I believe wholeheartedly that the WEF is trying to control everything. Trump is one that stands in the way 

 

[IGotWorms 4,028]

21 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Wow. Aren't you the intellectual. 

I’ll get down in the gutter where you MAGAts are found  

[jbycho 209]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I’ll get down in the gutter where you MAGAts are found  

Keep it coming. It's enjoyable to watch you liberals cry. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,051]

15 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

cool southpark is great

you should watch the world economic forum sometime

at least you will know your masters

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

cool southpark is great

you should watch the world economic forum sometime

at least you will know your masters

You are doing a bit at this point right?

[jbycho 209]

8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are doing a bit at this point right?

A guy posting South Park videos accusing someone else of "doing a bit". 

[Death 143]

 

[Alias Detective 1,313]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

I was right when I said you were a faggut who enjoys taking 20 c0cks at a highway rest stop 

 

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Not a lot of truck stops near the housing authority buildings

 

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

@Alias Detective doesn’t really care where it’s at, as long as his assh0le stays loose

I didn’t even chuckle.  If you’re going to make a funny at least make it funny.

[Patented Phil 1,275]

15 hours ago, TimHauck said:

This report says “the vaccines undoubtedly saved millions of lives,” do you agree?

I do.  But I disagree with:

1. Making vaccines a requirement.  A lot of good people were fired and suffered financial hardships as a result of this atrocious authoritarianism.

2. Making people wear masks.  Focking nonsense that was NEVER supported by science.

3. Prolonged social distancing.  We created a huge swath of mal-adjusted children.

4. Schools snd governmental offices were closed for WAY too long.  To this day my local Town Hall has never returned full-time.  A lot of very lazy people use it as an excuse to bilk the system. 

5. Politicization of the origin of the virus.  For some reason Liberals went off the deep end to protect China.  The lab leak theory was always the most likely. But because butt holes like Fauci had personal liability in this area, liberals and the mainstream media went out of their way to brand anyone who espoused the lab leak theory as crockpots and conspiracy theorists.  It was one of the ugly ugliest forms of group-think that I’ve ever seen in my lifetime.  China should be required to compensate the rest of the world for this disaster, and that was never even allowed to be discussed.

[IGotWorms 4,028]

6 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

 

 

I didn’t even chuckle.  If you’re going to make a funny at least make it funny.

I admit I’m not often good at it, but at least I try. Have you ever?

Seems like you’re just some coward’s alias made for the exclusive purpose of being a complete assh0le

[IGotWorms 4,028]

Just now, Patented Phil said:

I do.  But I disagree with:

1. Making vaccines a requirement

2. Making people wear masks.  Focking nonsense that was NEVER supported by science

3. Prolonged social distancing

4. Schools snd governmental offices were closed for WAY too long.  To this day my local Town Hall has never returned full-time.  A lot of very lazy people use it as an excuse to bilk the system. 

5. Politicization of the origin of the virus.  For some reason Liberals went off the deep end to protect China.  The lab leak theory was always the most likely. But because butt holes like Fauci had personal liability in this area, liberals and the mainstream media went out of their way to brand anyone who espoused the lab leak theory as crockpots and conspiracy theorists.  It was one of the ugly ugliest forms of group-think that I’ve ever seen in my lifetime.  China should be required to compensate the rest of the world for this disaster, and that was never even allowed to be discussed.

1. Wasn’t really ever a thing so far as I know. Like maybe a fireman somewhere or something?

2. I focking hated masks and never wish to wear one again. But it is supported by science. I mean how could it not be when you aren’t breathing out and coughing out germs at nearly the same rate? Do you understand how the spread of illnesses works? That said, not worth it imo.

3. See above.

4. Agreed, especially as to schools.

5. Veers way too far into loony conspiracy area, but otherwise agreed.

[jbycho 209]

18 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

1. Wasn’t really ever a thing so far as I know. Like maybe a fireman somewhere or something?

2. I focking hated masks and never wish to wear one again. But it is supported by science. I mean how could it not be when you aren’t breathing out and coughing out germs at nearly the same rate? Do you understand how the spread of illnesses works? That said, not worth it imo.

3. See above.

4. Agreed, especially as to schools.

5. Veers way too far into loony conspiracy area, but otherwise agreed.

[Fnord 1,664]

21 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I do.  But I disagree with:

1. Making vaccines a requirement.  A lot of good people were fired and suffered financial hardships as a result of this atrocious authoritarianism.

2. Making people wear masks.  Focking nonsense that was NEVER supported by science.

3. Prolonged social distancing.  We created a huge swath of mal-adjusted children.

4. Schools snd governmental offices were closed for WAY too long.  To this day my local Town Hall has never returned full-time.  A lot of very lazy people use it as an excuse to bilk the system. 

5. Politicization of the origin of the virus.  For some reason Liberals went off the deep end to protect China.  The lab leak theory was always the most likely. But because butt holes like Fauci had personal liability in this area, liberals and the mainstream media went out of their way to brand anyone who espoused the lab leak theory as crockpots and conspiracy theorists.  It was one of the ugly ugliest forms of group-think that I’ve ever seen in my lifetime.  China should be required to compensate the rest of the world for this disaster, and that was never even allowed to be discussed.

1.The vaccine was not required by the government, other than for healthcare workers, which was completely justified. Individual businesses were able to make their own decisions, and they did. 

2. Masks DO help in transmission of airborne disease. There was a reason that influenza was practically zero that year, and it's not because of a conspiracy, as someone referenced upthread. The biggest issue is that it is the SICK people that should be wearing them, not healthy. But remember, you could carry C-19 and still be completely asymptomatic. In that respect, masks were not helpful.

3/4. In hindsight, you're right. But in the moment, these things were not known. And given carriers could be asymptomatic, it was not known whether a child at school could potentially carry it home to their elderly grandparent and kill them. I will not argue that opportunists have milked the situation, that always happens. I also agree that the CDC being advised by the head of the teacher's union was at best bad optics, and at worst is directly responsible for a lot of the childhood issues we see now. 

5. If we're being honest here, the politicization was really a Trump/right wing thing. Hell, he lost the election because of it and because of his recklessness, there are almost certainly at least several thousand people that died unnecessarily. What blew me away at the time was how many people just said "fock you, I ain't wearin no damn mask." Really? That is exactly how one says "I'm a selfish POS that DGAF about anyone else" without actually saying it. This is what Americans are supposed to do for our friends, family, and neighbors that indicates their lives are more important than our temporary comfort. We pull together and support each other. But MAGA collectively said "GFY. If it inconveniences me, preserving your health doesn't matter."

A lot of the Wuhan lab origination pushback from media was a question as to whether the virus was intentionally released as a biological weapon; can we agree that there is no evidence of that? I think this is where things get muddied, since an accidental or negligent release from that lab was always a possibility, especially when China was in cover-up mode from day 1. And yes, China should be held responsible, but they never will.

[jbycho 209]

8 minutes ago, Fnord said:

1.The vaccine was not required by the government, other than for healthcare workers, which was completely justified. Individual businesses were able to make their own decisions, and they did. 

2. Masks DO help in transmission of airborne disease. There was a reason that influenza was practically zero that year, and it's not because of a conspiracy, as someone referenced upthread. The biggest issue is that it is the SICK people that should be wearing them, not healthy. But remember, you could carry C-19 and still be completely asymptomatic. In that respect, masks were not helpful.

3/4. In hindsight, you're right. But in the moment, these things were not known. And given carriers could be asymptomatic, it was not known whether a child at school could potentially carry it home to their elderly grandparent and kill them. I will not argue that opportunists have milked the situation, that always happens. I also agree that the CDC being advised by the head of the teacher's union was at best bad optics, and at worst is directly responsible for a lot of the childhood issues we see now. 

5. If we're being honest here, the politicization was really a Trump/right wing thing. Hell, he lost the election because of it and because of his recklessness, there are almost certainly at least several thousand people that died unnecessarily. What blew me away at the time was how many people just said "fock you, I ain't wearin no damn mask." Really? That is exactly how one says "I'm a selfish POS that DGAF about anyone else" without actually saying it. This is what Americans are supposed to do for our friends, family, and neighbors that indicates their lives are more important than our temporary comfort. We pull together and support each other. But MAGA collectively said "GFY. If it inconveniences me, preserving your health doesn't matter."

A lot of the Wuhan lab origination pushback from media was a question as to whether the virus was intentionally released as a biological weapon; can we agree that there is no evidence of that? I think this is where things get muddied, since an accidental or negligent release from that lab was always a possibility, especially when China was in cover-up mode from day 1. And yes, China should be held responsible, but they never will.

What a dope. Jeez. And he's trying so hard to show off his stupidity. 

[Patented Phil 1,275]

13 minutes ago, Fnord said:

1.The vaccine was not required by the government, other than for healthcare workers, which was completely justified. Individual businesses were able to make their own decisions, and they did. 

2. Masks DO help in transmission of airborne disease. There was a reason that influenza was practically zero that year, and it's not because of a conspiracy, as someone referenced upthread. The biggest issue is that it is the SICK people that should be wearing them, not healthy. But remember, you could carry C-19 and still be completely asymptomatic. In that respect, masks were not helpful.

3/4. In hindsight, you're right. But in the moment, these things were not known. And given carriers could be asymptomatic, it was not known whether a child at school could potentially carry it home to their elderly grandparent and kill them. I will not argue that opportunists have milked the situation, that always happens. I also agree that the CDC being advised by the head of the teacher's union was at best bad optics, and at worst is directly responsible for a lot of the childhood issues we see now. 

5. If we're being honest here, the politicization was really a Trump/right wing thing. Hell, he lost the election because of it and because of his recklessness, there are almost certainly at least several thousand people that died unnecessarily. What blew me away at the time was how many people just said "fock you, I ain't wearin no damn mask." Really? That is exactly how one says "I'm a selfish POS that DGAF about anyone else" without actually saying it. This is what Americans are supposed to do for our friends, family, and neighbors that indicates their lives are more important than our temporary comfort. We pull together and support each other. But MAGA collectively said "GFY. If it inconveniences me, preserving your health doesn't matter."

A lot of the Wuhan lab origination pushback from media was a question as to whether the virus was intentionally released as a biological weapon; can we agree that there is no evidence of that? I think this is where things get muddied, since an accidental or negligent release from that lab was always a possibility, especially when China was in cover-up mode from day 1. And yes, China should be held responsible, but they never will.

As with all things, it’s a matter of degree. I’m actually a big proponent of vaccinations, and personally I’ve never had a problem wearing a mask indoors around people.  Truth be told, I’ve always gotten extremely annoyed when I see people hacking and coughing on an airplane or in a crowded place.  Problem is, a lot of people on the Left took this to ridiculous extremes - like not allowing parents to watch their kids compete in outdoor sporting events.  This happened well after the initial outbreak of the virus.  Dumb, stupid, and yes - authoritarian nonsense.

[IGotWorms 4,028]

26 minutes ago, Fnord said:

1.The vaccine was not required by the government, other than for healthcare workers, which was completely justified. Individual businesses were able to make their own decisions, and they did. 

2. Masks DO help in transmission of airborne disease. There was a reason that influenza was practically zero that year, and it's not because of a conspiracy, as someone referenced upthread. The biggest issue is that it is the SICK people that should be wearing them, not healthy. But remember, you could carry C-19 and still be completely asymptomatic. In that respect, masks were not helpful.

3/4. In hindsight, you're right. But in the moment, these things were not known. And given carriers could be asymptomatic, it was not known whether a child at school could potentially carry it home to their elderly grandparent and kill them. I will not argue that opportunists have milked the situation, that always happens. I also agree that the CDC being advised by the head of the teacher's union was at best bad optics, and at worst is directly responsible for a lot of the childhood issues we see now. 

5. If we're being honest here, the politicization was really a Trump/right wing thing. Hell, he lost the election because of it and because of his recklessness, there are almost certainly at least several thousand people that died unnecessarily. What blew me away at the time was how many people just said "fock you, I ain't wearin no damn mask." Really? That is exactly how one says "I'm a selfish POS that DGAF about anyone else" without actually saying it. This is what Americans are supposed to do for our friends, family, and neighbors that indicates their lives are more important than our temporary comfort. We pull together and support each other. But MAGA collectively said "GFY. If it inconveniences me, preserving your health doesn't matter."

A lot of the Wuhan lab origination pushback from media was a question as to whether the virus was intentionally released as a biological weapon; can we agree that there is no evidence of that? I think this is where things get muddied, since an accidental or negligent release from that lab was always a possibility, especially when China was in cover-up mode from day 1. And yes, China should be held responsible, but they never will.

Americans have ALWAYS been that way. It’s damn near our national identity.

The only real difference with Trump/MAGA is we used to know a con artist when we saw one

[jbycho 209]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

Americans have ALWAYS been that way. It’s damn near our national identity.

The only real difference with Trump/MAGA is we used to know a con artist when we saw one

TRUMP 2024!!! 

[supermike80 1,600]

The pushback from the media to not make it a China thing was partially due to the medias obsession with Trump being RACIST!!!  So they had to push back on the China thing......Just to be anti Trump.  Remember it an absolute obsession with the media when it came to Trump.  They were literally out of control and they would deny and lie any way possible to try and discredit him.

[Mike Honcho 4,731]

1 hour ago, Patented Phil said:

I do.  But I disagree with:

1. Making vaccines a requirement.  A lot of good people were fired and suffered financial hardships as a result of this atrocious authoritarianism.

2. Making people wear masks.  Focking nonsense that was NEVER supported by science.

3. Prolonged social distancing.  We created a huge swath of mal-adjusted children.

4. Schools snd governmental offices were closed for WAY too long.  To this day my local Town Hall has never returned full-time.  A lot of very lazy people use it as an excuse to bilk the system. 

5. Politicization of the origin of the virus.  For some reason Liberals went off the deep end to protect China.  The lab leak theory was always the most likely. But because butt holes like Fauci had personal liability in this area, liberals and the mainstream media went out of their way to brand anyone who espoused the lab leak theory as crockpots and conspiracy theorists.  It was one of the ugly ugliest forms of group-think that I’ve ever seen in my lifetime.  China should be required to compensate the rest of the world for this disaster, and that was never even allowed to be discussed.

2. Incorrect - there are studies that show masks help prevent the spread of the disease.

In a head-to-head comparison of masks worn by people with active COVID-19, the inexpensive “duckbill” N95 came out on top, stopping 98% of COVID-19 particles in the breath of infected people from escaping into the air. Led by researchers from the University of Maryland School of Public Health (SPH), results showed other masks also performed well, blocking at least 70% of viral particles from escaping from the source – an infected person’s exhaled breath.

“The research shows that any mask is much better than no mask, and an N95 is significantly better than the other options. That’s the number one message,” says the study’s senior author, Dr. Donald Milton. Milton is a UMD SPH professor of environmental health and a global expert on how viruses spread through the air.

The study started in May 2020, shortly after the pandemic began, and compared breath samples from volunteers who had active COVID-19, testing the performance of four commonly-used masks. Even without giving participants fit tests or training on how to wear masks correctly, all masks significantly reduced the amount of virus escaping into the air. The study tested masks as a way to control the spread of the virus from the source, i.e. the infected person, and did not test masks as protection from COVID-19 in the surrounding air.

Full story

[Maximum Overkill 1,404]

11 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Incorrect

Mike, remember the one time when Liberals didn't think they could get COVID or spread it if they were vaccinated. 

And remember the time they vax shamed the unvaxxed. Good times, eh? 

[Engorgeous George 1,785]

6 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Yes COVID was released to get Trump...even after winning what people think is a mandate it still is about people picking on Trump. It's akin to being 30 years old and still hating your 4th grade girlfriend for breaking up with you. 

That b!tch did not have to say my clothes were tacky and then go out with Jeff Borchardt of all people.

[cmh6476 918]

The '19-'20 KU basketball team got shafted

[Patented Phil 1,275]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

2. Incorrect - there are studies that show masks help prevent the spread of the disease.

In a head-to-head comparison of masks worn by people with active COVID-19, the inexpensive “duckbill” N95 came out on top, stopping 98% of COVID-19 particles in the breath of infected people from escaping into the air. Led by researchers from the University of Maryland School of Public Health (SPH), results showed other masks also performed well, blocking at least 70% of viral particles from escaping from the source – an infected person’s exhaled breath.

“The research shows that any mask is much better than no mask, and an N95 is significantly better than the other options. That’s the number one message,” says the study’s senior author, Dr. Donald Milton. Milton is a UMD SPH professor of environmental health and a global expert on how viruses spread through the air.

The study started in May 2020, shortly after the pandemic began, and compared breath samples from volunteers who had active COVID-19, testing the performance of four commonly-used masks. Even without giving participants fit tests or training on how to wear masks correctly, all masks significantly reduced the amount of virus escaping into the air. The study tested masks as a way to control the spread of the virus from the source, i.e. the infected person, and did not test masks as protection from COVID-19 in the surrounding air.

Full story

Sorry, but in hindsight masks just didn’t pass any type of reasonable cost benefit analysis. They were most effective at helping suppress the outflow of airborne pathogens from those infected who were coughing and sneezing.  But there’s never been any good science showing worthwhile efficacy at preventing healthy people from becoming ill.  There’s actually some evidence that masks may have contributed to healthy people contracting the virus (ie - people constantly touching their mask and facial areas with contaminated hands).  Fauci even acknowledged this.

[wiffleball 4,760]

Still love Jon Stewart absolutely destroying is buddy Colbert (sell out) on the origins of Wuhan Flu. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,404]

4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I’ll get down in the gutter

More like GUTTERBOY 

You're so angry lately Worms. You used to be one of the NORMAL libs. Something bothering you of late? 

[IGotWorms 4,028]

7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

More like GUTTERBOY 

You're so angry lately Worms. You used to be one of the NORMAL libs. Something bothering you of late? 

I’m just tired of all the bullsh2t conspiracies and whataboutism. Trump won, now it’s time for you guys to actually do something and not just come up with excuses and distractions.

Obviously Trump isn’t in office yet, but you can sure see the theme developing.

[Maximum Overkill 1,404]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m just tired of all the bullsh2t conspiracies and whataboutism. Trump won, now it’s time for you guys to actually do something and not just come up with excuses and distractions.

Obviously Trump isn’t in office yet, but you can sure see the theme developing.

I'm a straight shooter Worms. If Trump F's up I'll be the first one to say it. But now you know how we feel. Libs NEVER criticize their own, FACTS. 

[jerryskids 6,173]

7 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

These are all common sense things, things that were out in the open already, that liberals are just now discovering. They say things like Get over it, because they are ashamed of themselves and wish people would forget how insanely idiotic they were.

Full disclosure when the lock downs were first mentioned, saying it would last 2 weeks, it made sense to me. I admit I was completely wrong and should have never trusted they would stick to their plan.

A lot of people in power especially want us to forget about it so that they aren't prosecuted. People like Worms would be happy if no one was punished for the covid cover up. Only because deep down they know they were duped, and are still being duped. Self loathing always shows itself.

 

I agree with the spirit of this, especially the middle.  Early on we were wise to follow the advice of the medical experts.  But over time, they went off the rails, keeping restrictions in place well after we knew that the young and healthy were basically fine.  The extended time that schools were shut down was critical; we basically sacrificed the development of all those kids in the interest of some combination of power grab, virtue signaling, and sucking the teet of the teachers unions.

To @IGotWorms comment of "get over it," the sad thing is that the next time there is a pandemic (and there will be -- heck, Ima guess China hasn't shut down any of their activities), at least half the country is going to view it as "crying wolf" , and it will be completely justified.  These folks lost our trust.  Unfortunately, if the next one is the real thing... might be very bad.    

[lickin_starfish 1,786]

I will never "get over" having my basic human rights trampled on.

[Reality 3,043]

43 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I agree with the spirit of this, especially the middle.  Early on we were wise to follow the advice of the medical experts.  But over time, they went off the rails, keeping restrictions in place well after we knew that the young and healthy were basically fine.  The extended time that schools were shut down was critical; we basically sacrificed the development of all those kids in the interest of some combination of power grab, virtue signaling, and sucking the teet of the teachers unions.

To @IGotWorms comment of "get over it," the sad thing is that the next time there is a pandemic (and there will be -- heck, Ima guess China hasn't shut down any of their activities), at least half the country is going to view it as "crying wolf" , and it will be completely justified.  These folks lost our trust.  Unfortunately, if the next one is the real thing... might be very bad.    

The "get over it" comment is the dumbest possible statement that can come from this whole thing. Study the response, learn, be better, much better.

Also

https://twitter.com/JDVanceNewsX/status/1863944491440242717

[IGotWorms 4,028]

50 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I agree with the spirit of this, especially the middle.  Early on we were wise to follow the advice of the medical experts.  But over time, they went off the rails, keeping restrictions in place well after we knew that the young and healthy were basically fine.  The extended time that schools were shut down was critical; we basically sacrificed the development of all those kids in the interest of some combination of power grab, virtue signaling, and sucking the teet of the teachers unions.

To @IGotWorms comment of "get over it," the sad thing is that the next time there is a pandemic (and there will be -- heck, Ima guess China hasn't shut down any of their activities), at least half the country is going to view it as "crying wolf" , and it will be completely justified.  These folks lost our trust.  Unfortunately, if the next one is the real thing... might be very bad.    

My main issue is people sobbing like b1tches over something that happened four years ago. They act like it’s still ongoing today or something. Certainly it should be learned from but conservatives still try to use it as some political rallying call or something is just stupid

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

5 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I admit I’m not often good at it, but at least I try. Have you ever?

Seems like you’re just some coward’s alias made for the exclusive purpose of being a complete assh0le

[Frozenbeernuts 1,883]

7 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

My main issue is people sobbing like b1tches over something that happened four years ago. They act like it’s still ongoing today or something. Certainly it should be learned from but conservatives still try to use it as some political rallying call or something is just stupid

No, your self loathing doesn't reflect those of us with self respect. If they aren't held accountable for their GROSS mishandling of basically everything they will do it again. Hiding the truth. Silencing people who spoke the truth while they lied, there is no stopping government from enacting anything they want. Look at Canada and most of Europe. It's a train wreck where their citizens are purposely being imprisoned and phased out.

To top it all off, Pfizer and the other covid jab makers bribed everyone they could to push their vaccine. They lied about the research, and it has harmed a lot of people. Boot licker libs like you who are supposedly anti big business were sucking the balls and stroking the shaft of big pharma. That's when I realized liberals are mostly fake.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,883]

2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m just tired of all the bullsh2t conspiracies and whataboutism. Trump won, now it’s time for you guys to actually do something and not just come up with excuses and distractions.

Obviously Trump isn’t in office yet, but you can sure see the theme developing.

Look at how much Trump is accomplishing months before he takes office. You're welcome for saving you from yourself.