Nomad99 646 Posted December 4 Ravens WR Diontae Johnson suspended for conduct detrimental to team. Diontae Johnson is off to a rocky start in Baltimore. The Ravens have suspended Johnson for one game for conduct detrimental to the team, the team announced Wednesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,396 Posted December 4 I'd release him. He goes from a crap team to a contender and he can't be professional? Dump him. Let him be unemployed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 247 Posted December 5 Read that the Ravens would be better off keeping him as he is a free agent at the end of the season and they can get draft pick compensation if he signs with another team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,396 Posted December 5 12 hours ago, Showboat said: Read that the Ravens would be better off keeping him as he is a free agent at the end of the season and they can get draft pick compensation if he signs with another team. Compensatory picks are based on money and playing time. This is now 3 teams in 6 months who are sick of him. What makes anyone think Johnson's going to get a big money deal. My guess is that he gets a 1 year $3M deal. That's not going to get them anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 247 Posted December 5 2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Compensatory picks are based on money and playing time. This is now 3 teams in 6 months who are sick of him. What makes anyone think Johnson's going to get a big money deal. My guess is that he gets a 1 year $3M deal. That's not going to get them anything. You may be underestimating the lunacy of NFL free agency. He will be one of the biggest names available in a WR-happy league. It only takes one desperate team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rotisserieking 55 Posted December 5 Funny - as soon as I heard the news I thought the same thing. Another talented Steelers WR who can't get away from the crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 646 Posted December 5 5 minutes ago, rotisserieking said: Funny - as soon as I heard the news I thought the same thing. Another talented Steelers WR who can't get away from the crazy. Exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 247 Posted December 5 ...and Pickens doesn't seem far behind on that path..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,396 Posted December 5 5 hours ago, Showboat said: You may be underestimating the lunacy of NFL free agency. He will be one of the biggest names available in a WR-happy league. It only takes one desperate team. Oh, I think there will be someone who signs him... I'm just not so sure the money will be there. I know teams will do stupid things, but at this point, I think everyone knows the "buyer beware" tag associated with Johnson at this point. Spotrac.com have his market value guestimated at 3 yr/$30M. That's likely before the drama. I'm guessing the maket value, at best, will be half of that. I don't think that will move the needle on a compensatory pick. But, as you noted, it only takes one desperate team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 721 Posted December 8 On 12/5/2024 at 1:47 PM, TBayXXXVII said: Oh, I think there will be someone who signs him... I'm just not so sure the money will be there. I know teams will do stupid things, but at this point, I think everyone knows the "buyer beware" tag associated with Johnson at this point. Spotrac.com have his market value guestimated at 3 yr/$30M. That's likely before the drama. I'm guessing the maket value, at best, will be half of that. I don't think that will move the needle on a compensatory pick. But, as you noted, it only takes one desperate team. true. I'm sure his agent will read him the riot act and he will be on his best behavior for the rest of the season. (at least.... if hes smart.... no guarantee of that) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,624 Posted December 8 Read that the Ravens might not want to release him in order to keep him from ending up with Pitt again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 721 Posted December 9 On 12/5/2024 at 1:47 PM, TBayXXXVII said: Oh, I think there will be someone who signs him... I'm just not so sure the money will be there. I know teams will do stupid things, but at this point, I think everyone knows the "buyer beware" tag associated with Johnson at this point. Spotrac.com have his market value guestimated at 3 yr/$30M. That's likely before the drama. I'm guessing the maket value, at best, will be half of that. I don't think that will move the needle on a compensatory pick. But, as you noted, it only takes one desperate team. well, you cant count on NFL teams being smart, but I do think they get a compensatory pick. but maybe not as large a pick as some would seem to think they'd get. for that reason alone, they may keep him on the roster unless hes so disruptive that they figure they are better off without him. but if that happens, he (as a player) likely has far bigger problems than most of us know about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,396 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Ray_T said: well, you cant count on NFL teams being smart, but I do think they get a compensatory pick. but maybe not as large a pick as some would seem to think they'd get. for that reason alone, they may keep him on the roster unless hes so disruptive that they figure they are better off without him. but if that happens, he (as a player) likely has far bigger problems than most of us know about. Compensatory picks are based on a few factors.... contract size, performance, and net gain/loss in free agency. If he doesn't get a good deal, the Ravens are likely to spend more to bring in than what he and others are going to get elsewhere, and he probably won't yield them anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 721 Posted December 9 3 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Compensatory picks are based on a few factors.... contract size, performance, and net gain/loss in free agency. If he doesn't get a good deal, the Ravens are likely to spend more to bring in than what he and others are going to get elsewhere, and he probably won't yield them anything. well, I wouldnt be inclined to pay someone who has been hit or miss production wise, and if hes being suspended for conduct detrimental to the team I think that may be enough to scare a lot of teams away. though as someone earlier said..... it only takes one team willing to overlook that. but if signing a guy like that, the guaranteed amount likely needs to be small. I'd be like, I'll give you a good contract, but little to no guaranteed money. so if you misbehave, I can just cut you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,396 Posted December 9 2 hours ago, Ray_T said: well, I wouldnt be inclined to pay someone who has been hit or miss production wise, and if hes being suspended for conduct detrimental to the team I think that may be enough to scare a lot of teams away. though as someone earlier said..... it only takes one team willing to overlook that. but if signing a guy like that, the guaranteed amount likely needs to be small. I'd be like, I'll give you a good contract, but little to no guaranteed money. so if you misbehave, I can just cut you. I don't disagree, but if they cut him, then his only pay will be while rostered and his playing time would be limited. Again though, it would be contingent on who the Ravens sign as well. If Baltimore only loses Johnson and no other impact players, but bring in more contract money than what Johnson got, then they get nothing. Simply, I think the odds of them getting anything more than a 7th round comp pick is slim... almost infinitesimal for more than a 6th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 721 Posted December 10 8 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: I don't disagree, but if they cut him, then his only pay will be while rostered and his playing time would be limited. Again though, it would be contingent on who the Ravens sign as well. If Baltimore only loses Johnson and no other impact players, but bring in more contract money than what Johnson got, then they get nothing. Simply, I think the odds of them getting anything more than a 7th round comp pick is slim... almost infinitesimal for more than a 6th. I guess time will tell. we also dont know how serious the infraction is. I think Baltimore is a no nonsense organization so maybe more strict than other teams on rules and such. but I cannot say for sure. that said, an infraction serious enough to warrant a 1 game suspension should be considered serious enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 646 Posted December 10 8 hours ago, Ray_T said: I guess time will tell. we also dont know how serious the infraction is. I think Baltimore is a no nonsense organization so maybe more strict than other teams on rules and such. but I cannot say for sure. that said, an infraction serious enough to warrant a 1 game suspension should be considered serious enough. From my understanding, he refused to take the field during a game...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 721 Posted December 12 On 12/10/2024 at 7:01 AM, Nomad99 said: From my understanding, he refused to take the field during a game...... That definitely warrants a suspension. I'm a bit surprised hed do THAT. glad I have no shares in the guy. No plans to buy in either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
