Mass-Murderer Fauci set to Receive Pardon

[TBayXXXVII 2,396]

44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course it’s debatable. He acknowledges that money was given to the Wuhan lab. He does not agree that it was given for “gain of function” because the CDC defines that term differently from members of Congress relying on one scientist who is not in the majority. In order to prove that Fauci lied, you would have to prove that his stated opinion on this issue is not just wrong (which is highly in dispute) but also DELIBERATELY wrong. And I don’t think you can do that. 
 

The assertion that Fauci is a mass murderer is even more absurd. First you would have to prove that it was his decision to send money to the Wuhan lab, rather than a joint official government policy which had been going on for years. Second you have to prove that our monetary contributions to Wuhan contributed significantly to the Covid 19 virus. Third you would have to prove that the Covid 19 virus was in fact a product of the Wuhan labs. Finally you would have to prove that any of this was done deliberately with malice aforethought. NONE of this is proven; almost all of it is extremely unlikely. 
 

So if the Trump folks really want to go after Fauci I say bring it on. They’ll only look foolish as @Jon_mx does here. 

They should probably try him in NY.  I hear that in their trials, you don't actually need proof of something illegal, you just need jurors to think that he's guilty of "something" and they don't all have to agree on what that "something" is.

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

They should probably try him in NY.  I hear that in their trials, you don't actually need proof of something illegal, you just need jurors to think that he's guilty of "something" and they don't all have to agree on what that "something" is.

Way to attempt to move the goalposts and change the subject. And anyhow the jurors in the Trump hush money case heard the evidence and found Trump guilty. As they should have because it was clear that he committed the crimes described. So you can make all the general statements you want but it doesn’t change the facts of that case. 

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52 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Way to attempt to move the goalposts and change the subject. And anyhow the jurors in the Trump hush money case heard the evidence and found Trump guilty. As they should have because it was clear that he committed the crimes described. So you can make all the general statements you want but it doesn’t change the facts of that case. 

What goal posts?  You said good like finding him [Fauci] guilty.  I just pointed out in NY that Trump was convicted of 34 felony's, but we don't even know what those felony's are.  Apparently in NY, you can just find someone guilty of a crime as long as you think they're guilty of "something".

[Gepetto 1,192]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course it’s debatable. He acknowledges that money was given to the Wuhan lab. He does not agree that it was given for “gain of function” because the CDC defines that term differently from members of Congress relying on one scientist who is not in the majority. In order to prove that Fauci lied, you would have to prove that his stated opinion on this issue is not just wrong (which is highly in dispute) but also DELIBERATELY wrong. And I don’t think you can do that. 
 

The assertion that Fauci is a mass murderer is even more absurd. First you would have to prove that it was his decision to send money to the Wuhan lab, rather than a joint official government policy which had been going on for years. Second you have to prove that our monetary contributions to Wuhan contributed significantly to the Covid 19 virus. Third you would have to prove that the Covid 19 virus was in fact a product of the Wuhan labs. Finally you would have to prove that any of this was done deliberately with malice aforethought. NONE of this is proven; almost all of it is extremely unlikely. 
 

So if the Trump folks really want to go after Fauci I say bring it on. They’ll only look foolish as @Jon_mx does here. 

I believe it's been put out in the news that the virus that causes COVID-19 has genetics in it that do not exist in nature and the conclusion is it came from the Wuhan lab.

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Fouchi is a criminal. Lock him up!

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

41 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I believe it's been put out in the news that the virus that causes COVID-19 has genetics in it that do not exist in nature and the conclusion is it came from the Wuhan lab.

I get that. We’ll never know fully for sure but it’s a real possibility, or even probability, that it came from the Wuhan lab. Thats why I wrote “almost all” and not all. 
 

Again, even if it came from the Wuhan lab, in order for Fauci to be a mass murderer you would still have to prove that (1) it was his decision alone to send money to that lab, and not US policy established over several years (b) that the money we sent there contributed significantly to the development of this virus and (c) that all this was deliberate. I don’t believe that ANY of this is true, but you’re welcome to prove it. 
 

 

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

Let me offer an analogy: It was US policy during the 1930s to contribute money to several German large businesses as part of technological research that would benefit both countries. This aid included the chemical firm IG Farben. During this period, IG Farben developed an insecticide known as Zyklon B. Years later, Zyklon B was used at the gas chambers at Auschwitz to exterminate millions of people. 
 

Based on the logic of this thread, Franklin Roosevelt, who was head of government at the time we sent money to IG Farben, is therefore responsible for the Holocaust. See how crazy that sounds? 
 

And let’s go a step further: I named FDR because I don’t have any idea who the head of the agency was who sent money to Germany; ultimately it’s the head of state who has to be responsible. The same rule would apply today. Dr Fauci or other scientists might recommend money sent to Wuhan but in the end it happened under Trump’s watch, right? So why isn’t Donald Trump a mass murderer? 

[jonmx 2,206]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Way to attempt to move the goalposts and change the subject. And anyhow the jurors in the Trump hush money case heard the evidence and found Trump guilty. As they should have because it was clear that he committed the crimes described. So you can make all the general statements you want but it doesn’t change the facts of that case. 

Guilty of what?  I bet $100 you can't even identify the crime which makes the false business records a felony because there was none.  The case was 100 percent bullshit.  I am sure you will cut and paste some fuking legal nonsense that talks about another statue about illegally winning an election, but that does not even make logical sense since the false business records were after the election.   The whole case was a fuking pile of manure  ut you are too fuking dumb to understand it.   Seriously fuk you.   You are a retard. 

[squistion 1,662]

41 minutes ago, jonmx said:

  The whole case was a fuking pile of manure  ut you are too fuking dumb to understand it.   Seriously fuk you.   You are a retard. 

What is wrong with you to address anyone like this? Seriously. 

[jonmx 2,206]

10 minutes ago, squistion said:

What is wrong with you to address anyone like this? Seriously. 

I am so tired of fuking morons who are incapable of looking at facts and understanding.  Instead you fuking morons take whatever BS the propaganda media spews.  I am so tired of the pure stupidity.  The case was 100 percent nonsense which will get thrown out once nonpartisan adults look at it.  

[Gepetto 1,192]

Well if not murder, he's responsible for 7 million plus homicides along with negatively affecting the livelihood of millions and the education of the majority of children, not only in the US, but worldwide. He's on the same level as Hitler and Stalin for certain.

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

13 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Well if not murder, he's responsible for 7 million plus homicides along with negatively affecting the livelihood of millions and the education of the majority of children, not only in the US, but worldwide. He's on the same level as Hitler and Stalin for certain.

You can’t refute a single point I made and yet you continue with this nonsense. It’s dishonest. 

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

Guilty of what?  I bet $100 you can't even identify the crime which makes the false business records a felony because there was none.  The case was 100 percent bullshit.  I am sure you will cut and paste some fuking legal nonsense that talks about another statue about illegally winning an election, but that does not even make logical sense since the false business records were after the election.   The whole case was a fuking pile of manure  ut you are too fuking dumb to understand it.   Seriously fuk you.   You are a retard. 

And you’re even worse than @Gepetto. No response to what I wrote about Fauci. You need to respond to that first, and show me why I am wrong and that you’re not insane for calling him a mass murderer. Or admit that you’re full of crap. Once you’ve addressed that then I will address your false BS about the New York Trump trial. 

[Patented Phil 1,283]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course it’s debatable. He acknowledges that money was given to the Wuhan lab. He does not agree that it was given for “gain of function” because the CDC defines that term differently from members of Congress relying on one scientist who is not in the majority. In order to prove that Fauci lied, you would have to prove that his stated opinion on this issue is not just wrong (which is highly in dispute) but also DELIBERATELY wrong. And I don’t think you can do that. 
 

The assertion that Fauci is a mass murderer is even more absurd. First you would have to prove that it was his decision to send money to the Wuhan lab, rather than a joint official government policy which had been going on for years. Second you have to prove that our monetary contributions to Wuhan contributed significantly to the Covid 19 virus. Third you would have to prove that the Covid 19 virus was in fact a product of the Wuhan labs. Finally you would have to prove that any of this was done deliberately with malice aforethought. NONE of this is proven; almost all of it is extremely unlikely. 
 

So if the Trump folks really want to go after Fauci I say bring it on. They’ll only look foolish as @Jon_mx does here. 

Bullshitt semantics.  

Fauci funded GOF research in humanized mice

The result was a lab-generated virus that could infect human cells, he said, adding that at least three of the lab-generated viruses "exhibited >10x to >100x higher viral loads in humanized mice."

A humanized mouse is a mouse that has been bio-engineered to mimic certain biological characteristics similar to humans, such as the immune system, so that they can be tested on in labs as a human surrogate. They are commonly used in research.

[Gepetto 1,192]

RAND PAUL: I've said referrals. Criminal referrals on Anthony Fauci twice to the Department of Justice. Without really response. Merrick Garland hasn't done his job. He's probably the most partisan attorney general we've ever had.

I will send those referrals again. If they preemptively pardon Anthony Fauci, it will seal his fate as the architect, author, and godfather of the pandemic. He's the one who funded it. He's the one who funded the research in Wuhan. He's the one that allowed the research, not to be scrutinized.

I don't get this. There was a safety committee that was supposed to scrutinize dangerous research. It was set up because of fear of exactly this happening. There have been scientists talking about this for 20 years, worried that this is going to happen. Anthony Fauci side-stepped the safety committee. And allowed this research to go on.

Then when it came forward, that he had done.

He said, oh. Nothing to see here. We didn't really do it.

Oh, well, we funded EcoHealth. And they funded Wuhan. But, oh, nothing to see here.

And then he had the gall to say, it wasn't gain of function, and it wasn't dangerous. That's all a lie. All that's come out. And really, we haven't -- we have him in private saying, we know it's really dangerous there. We know they do gain-of-function research. We have them dead to rights. If the president pardons him. I think it will just cement his role in history as being the architect of gain of function surgery.

[Patented Phil 1,283]

In a February 9 2020 interview with Speaker Newt Gingrich, the former lawmaker asked Fauci to weigh in on 'a biological warfare center in Wuhan and [whether] the coronavirus escaped from that.'

Fauci poured cold water on the theory that COVID could have escaped from a lab, calling it a 'conspiracy theory' three times in one sentence. 

'I've heard these conspiracy theories, and like all conspiracy theories, Newt, they're just conspiracy theories.' 
 

Evil, lying, bastardd.  He suppressed the lab leak theory from day 1.  He misled and obfuscated on what was going on at Wuhan.  And then, when he got nabbed having funded the research being done at Wuhan, he played word games by saying it technically wasn’t gain of function by citing some hidden, remote definition - hitching his wagon to the distinction that the research wasn't being done on humans.  Meanwhile, it was being done on humanized mice, meaning that it could be contracted by humans.  This is what we call a distinction without a difference. Horrible, evil man.  Hope he burns in hell.

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

You guys are so distorted about this. But then so is Rand Paul. I mean you gotta pull back and realize this is crazy crazy stuff. 

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8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

You guys are so distorted about this. But then so is Rand Paul. I mean you gotta pull back and realize this is crazy crazy stuff. 

He should not be pardoned. Agreed. 

[jonmx 2,206]

8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

You guys are so distorted about this. But then so is Rand Paul. I mean you gotta pull back and realize this is crazy crazy stuff. 

7 million people are dead because of Covid.  He seny money through a shell company to go to China to fund research that resulted in the development and accidental release of the virus. (Undisputed fact).  He conspired with co-workers to cover-up the source of the virus (undisputed fact).  He constantly uses semantics to decieve the people and Congress (undisputed fact).   He lied about many aspects of Covid including the safety and effectiveness (udisputed fact)..  Over his career, he has illegally used his position to make himself extremely wealthy.   Read a book on Fauci, he is a truly low-life SOB.  

You are good putting Trump in prison for a check memo which harmed no one, deceived no one and broke no law outside of being debatably a false record misdemeanor years past the statue of limitations.   But you want to use BS semantics to defend a guy whose shady actions resulted in over 7,000,000 deaths and trillions of economic damaged.   UNREAL 

[jonmx 2,206]

The left has become nothing but a bunch a braindead jackasses.  

[Dizkneelande 1,018]

If ‘The Real Anthony Fauci,’ by RFKj is not accurate, he would have been sued. Which seems weird to me that that did not happen if he’s such a stand up human. It’s not as weird though as so called liberals defending a career bureaucrat with such fervor. Especially one who was at the forefront of violating our civil liberties. You’re a bunch of frauds. 

[Engorgeous George 1,788]

16 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Way to attempt to move the goalposts and change the subject. And anyhow the jurors in the Trump hush money case heard the evidence and found Trump guilty. As they should have because it was clear that he committed the crimes described. So you can make all the general statements you want but it doesn’t change the facts of that case. 

As to "clear" that is a civil standard of proof, "clear and convincing.  You should be argueing that "beyond a reasonable doubt" he commited the acts.

 

As for "crimes described" acts were committed on his behalf and with his general knowledge, if not his specific knowledge or direct participation.  Those acts were postured as crimes by the D.A. and the judge in a first time and novel application of the law.  Whether that application will withstand appellate review is very much an open question and to me seems doubtful, but who knows?  

[jonmx 2,206]

14 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

If ‘The Real Anthony Fauci,’ by RFKj is not accurate, he would have been sued. Which seems weird to me that that did not happen if he’s such a stand up human. It’s not as weird though as so called liberals defending a career bureaucrat with such fervor. Especially one who was at the forefront of violating our civil liberties. You’re a bunch of frauds. 

 

The Real Anthony Fauci reveals how “America’s Doctor” launched his career during the early AIDS crisis by partnering with pharmaceutical companies to sabotage safe and effective off-patent therapeutic treatments for AIDS. Fauci orchestrated fraudulent do-nothing studies, and then pressured US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulators into approving a deadly chemotherapy treatment he had good reason to know was worthless against AIDS. Fauci did the unthinkable and repeatedly violated federal laws to allow his Pharma partners to use impoverished and dark-skinned children as lab rats in beyond order, deadly experiments with toxic AIDS and cancer chemotherapies.

In early 2000, Fauci shook hands with Bill Gates in the library of Gates’ $147 million Seattle mansion, cementing a partnership that would aim to control an increasingly profitable $60 billion global vaccine enterprise with unlimited growth potential. Through funding leverage and carefully cultivated personal relationships with heads of state and leading media and social media institutions, the Pharma-Fauci-Gates alliance exercises dominion over global health policy and our beautiful country.

This is not just another political book. The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their cohorts use their control of media outlets—both conservative and liberal leaning, scientific journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies, global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and ruthlessly censor dissent.

 

What a serious POS.   But bootlickers will bootlick.  

[Engorgeous George 1,788]

19 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Let me offer an analogy: It was US policy during the 1930s to contribute money to several German large businesses as part of technological research that would benefit both countries. This aid included the chemical firm IG Farben. During this period, IG Farben developed an insecticide known as Zyklon B. Years later, Zyklon B was used at the gas chambers at Auschwitz to exterminate millions of people. 
 

Based on the logic of this thread, Franklin Roosevelt, who was head of government at the time we sent money to IG Farben, is therefore responsible for the Holocaust. See how crazy that sounds? 
 

And let’s go a step further: I named FDR because I don’t have any idea who the head of the agency was who sent money to Germany; ultimately it’s the head of state who has to be responsible. The same rule would apply today. Dr Fauci or other scientists might recommend money sent to Wuhan but in the end it happened under Trump’s watch, right? So why isn’t Donald Trump a mass murderer? 

A fascinatingly stupid analogy.  If something happens under one's watch one is responsible, even if they had no knowledge of what happened and even if they had implemented policies and practices to prevent the activity.  So any night watchman at a building is legally responsible for any rape, murder, or theft that occurs in the building.  Any Commander of a military base is responsible for any crimes that occur surreptitiously on his or her base.

 

Next time you construct a straw man argument maybe try to not have the main premise be so galactically stupid.

 

 

[squistion 1,662]

7 minutes ago, jonmx said:

This is not just another political book. The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their cohorts use their control of media outlets—both conservative and liberal leaning, scientific journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies, global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and ruthlessly censor dissent.

Yeah, right. 

[Engorgeous George 1,788]

8 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

The Real Anthony Fauci reveals how “America’s Doctor” launched his career during the early AIDS crisis by partnering with pharmaceutical companies to sabotage safe and effective off-patent therapeutic treatments for AIDS. Fauci orchestrated fraudulent do-nothing studies, and then pressured US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulators into approving a deadly chemotherapy treatment he had good reason to know was worthless against AIDS. Fauci did the unthinkable and repeatedly violated federal laws to allow his Pharma partners to use impoverished and dark-skinned children as lab rats in beyond order, deadly experiments with toxic AIDS and cancer chemotherapies.

In early 2000, Fauci shook hands with Bill Gates in the library of Gates’ $147 million Seattle mansion, cementing a partnership that would aim to control an increasingly profitable $60 billion global vaccine enterprise with unlimited growth potential. Through funding leverage and carefully cultivated personal relationships with heads of state and leading media and social media institutions, the Pharma-Fauci-Gates alliance exercises dominion over global health policy and our beautiful country.

This is not just another political book. The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their cohorts use their control of media outlets—both conservative and liberal leaning, scientific journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies, global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and ruthlessly censor dissent.

 

What a serious POS.   But bootlickers will bootlick.  

We need to get Ethan Hunt and his IMF team on this.

[jonmx 2,206]

5 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

As to "clear" that is a civil standard of proof, "clear and convincing.  You should be argueing that "beyond a reasonable doubt" he commited the acts.

 

As for "crimes described" acts were committed on his behalf and with his general knowledge, if not his specific knowledge or direct participation.  Those acts were postured as crimes by the D.A. and the judge in a first time and novel application of the law.  Whether that application will withstand appellate review is very much an open question and to me seems doubtful, but who knows?  

The only thing is clear, is that the jury believed the check memo were inaccurate.   How that misdemeanor became a felony no one knows.  The judge rigged the jury instructions to list four possible federal crimes without any instructions which defined the elements of those crimes.  I don't see how any lawyer can defend that circus.  

The $540 million civil penalty verdict should get tossed out soon.   I am surprised the court has not ruled on that yet.   That was a joke of a case also.  

In the past 8 years, I have lost complete confidence in our justice system.   Too many partisan hacks with way too much power and no accountability.  

[jonmx 2,206]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

Yeah, right. 

You make such a wonderful brownshirt.  

[Engorgeous George 1,788]

4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

A fascinatingly stupid analogy.  If something happens under one's watch one is responsible, even if they had no knowledge of what happened even if they had implemented policies and practices to prevent the activity.  So any night watchman at a building is legally responsible for any rape, murder, or theft that occurs in the buiding.  Any Commander of a military base is responsible for any crimes that occur surreptitiously on his or her base.

 

Next time you construct a straw man argument maybe try to not have the main premise be so galactically stupid.

 

 

To take this a step further, since it is the property owner or managers who hired and approved of the hire of the night watchman it is they, under your theory who are resposnible for any crimes committed.  Seems that puts you, Tim, in a very tenuous position as someone who owns and manages commercial properties.   

 

We will miss you Tim as you serve out your many sentences.

[Patented Phil 1,283]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

The left has become nothing but a bunch a braindead jackasses.  

They’re not even worth arguing with anymore.  Tim is a shell of his former self.  I don’t think he even reads articles anymore.  He just skims headlines, looks up the party line, then engages in vacuous arguments to promote his side’s position.

[Maximum Overkill 1,414]

10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

You guys are so distorted about this. But then so is Rand Paul. I mean you gotta pull back and realize this is crazy crazy stuff. 

So Fauci released this Virus, then found a "miracle cure" vaccine for this Virus. 

Hmmm  

[Patented Phil 1,283]

10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

You guys are so distorted about this. But then so is Rand Paul. I mean you gotta pull back and realize this is crazy crazy stuff. 

Three very simple questions please:

1) Did Fauci fund research at Wuhan where they added a spike protein to make a more lethal coronavirus?

2) Was that new virus tested on humanized mice, meaning that the virus could take a foothold in human beings?

3) How is this not “gain of function” research, by any stretch of the definition?

I’ll hang up and listen to the distortion.

[TimHauck 2,456]

18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course it’s debatable. He acknowledges that money was given to the Wuhan lab. He does not agree that it was given for “gain of function” because the CDC defines that term differently from members of Congress relying on one scientist who is not in the majority. In order to prove that Fauci lied, you would have to prove that his stated opinion on this issue is not just wrong (which is highly in dispute) but also DELIBERATELY wrong. And I don’t think you can do that. 
 

The assertion that Fauci is a mass murderer is even more absurd. First you would have to prove that it was his decision to send money to the Wuhan lab, rather than a joint official government policy which had been going on for years. Second you have to prove that our monetary contributions to Wuhan contributed significantly to the Covid 19 virus. Third you would have to prove that the Covid 19 virus was in fact a product of the Wuhan labs. Finally you would have to prove that any of this was done deliberately with malice aforethought. NONE of this is proven; almost all of it is extremely unlikely. 

This.   Pretty sure the funding that came from Ecohealth alliance who got funding from the government was a small portion of the lab’s overall funding, so most likely the same research would have still happened and thus it’s stupid to call Fauci a murderer for funding the Wuhan lab.

I maintain that how Fauci cost the most lives was by recommending people get 2 vaccine doses before others got 1, considering 1 dose of vaccine could have still helped folks (and likely would have also resulted in less myocarditis).

He made some mistakes, but he had the best interest of the country in mind.  He’s also old as fock, just let him disappear then die naturally, I am OK with him being pardoned.

[Engorgeous George 1,788]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This.   Pretty sure the funding that came from Ecohealth alliance who got funding from the government was a small portion of the lab’s overall funding, so most likely the same research would have still happened and thus it’s stupid to call Fauci a murderer for funding the Wuhan lab.

I maintain that how Fauci cost the most lives was by recommending people get 2 vaccine doses before others got 1, considering 1 dose of vaccine could have still helped folks (and likely would have also resulted in less myocarditis).

He made some mistakes, but he had the best interest of the country in mind.  He’s also old as fock, just let him disappear then die naturally, I am OK with him being pardoned.

I am unclear how this assumption can be made.  To my understanding that lab had many projects being run and when they got the funding they added yet another project. I suppose it is possible others may have funded this new effort, or they may have gotten there themselves without the funding which is really a nothing more than a request to undertake a new project, but to presume that seems a bridge too far. 

[jonmx 2,206]

40 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I am unclear how this assumption can be made.  To my understanding that lab had many projects being run and when they got the funding they added yet another project. I suppose it is possible others may have funded this new effort, or they may have gotten there themselves without the funding which is really a nothing more than a request to undertake a new project, but to presume that seems a bridge too far. 

Sure I shot the guy, but I am pretty sure one of the first bullets killed him before i hit him, so I am innocent.   

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

2 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

Three very simple questions please:

1) Did Fauci fund research at Wuhan where they added a spike protein to make a more lethal coronavirus?

2) Was that new virus tested on humanized mice, meaning that the virus could take a foothold in human beings?

3) How is this not “gain of function” research, by any stretch of the definition?

I’ll hang up and listen to the distortion.

Well according to you I’m only a shell of my former self, but what the heck I’ll give it a try anyhow: 

1. No. Fauci didn’t fund anything. There was no personal check. He was part of a team that authorized money sent to the Wuhan lab but my understanding is that this was part of long standing U.S. policy approved by several Presidents including Trump. As to the second part of this question (what the money was used for) I have no idea but I do know that Fauci and the CDC dispute your claim. 

2. No idea. 

3. No idea but Fauci and many other scientists claim it is not. I am not a scientist and am not prepared to argue the point. I strongly suspect however that other non-scientists who are making this claim are politically motivated. 

[squistion 1,662]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well according to you I’m only a shell of my former self, but what the heck I’ll give it a try anyhow: 

1. No. Fauci didn’t fund anything. There was no personal check. He was part of a team that authorized money sent to the Wuhan lab but my understanding is that this was part of long standing U.S. policy approved by several Presidents including Trump. As to the second part of this question (what the money was used for) I have no idea but I do know that Fauci and the CDC dispute your claim. 

2. No idea. 

3. No idea but Fauci and many other scientists claim it is not. I am not a scientist and am not prepared to argue the point. I strongly suspect however that other non-scientists who are making this claim are politically motivated. 

They are all acting like Fauci authorized and funded this on his own (obviously because this backs up the absurd claim that he and he alone is reponsible for 7 million COVID deaths, while conveniently ignoring Trump's inept and botched response to this pandemic). 

[Patented Phil 1,283]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well according to you I’m only a shell of my former self, but what the heck I’ll give it a try anyhow: 

1. No. Fauci didn’t fund anything. There was no personal check. He was part of a team that authorized money sent to the Wuhan lab but my understanding is that this was part of long standing U.S. policy approved by several Presidents including Trump. As to the second part of this question (what the money was used for) I have no idea but I do know that Fauci and the CDC dispute your claim. 

2. No idea. 

3. No idea but Fauci and many other scientists claim it is not. I am not a scientist and am not prepared to argue the point. I strongly suspect however that other non-scientists who are making this claim are politically motivated. 

And I strongly suspect you haven’t read jack shitt about this issue, because, well - Lazy.

[jonmx 2,206]

Fauci controled about $6 billion in funds, but according to Tim he funded nothing even though it is a matter of record thet he did.  

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

58 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Fauci controled about $6 billion in funds, but according to Tim he funded nothing even though it is a matter of record thet he did.  

1. So you’re saying he personally controlled the money without consultation from anyone else in government? 
 

2. If so how did he get such authority? From whom?