Ten Dead And Thirty Injured Last Night In New Orleans

Horseman · January 2

8 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Remember when you welched on the Trump trials bet?

Link to the terms and me agreeing to them and I will pay up immediately. Men keep their bargains.

Something like this:

You can't. Just keep lying and welching. Garbage human.

Hawkeye21 · January 2

1 minute ago, Patented Phil said:

I wasn’t going off. I was trying to figure out what the fock was going on. Was I frustrated that the FBI was incompetent at the start of the investigation? Absolutely. I’m not at all embarrassed to ask the obvious question staring everyone in the face which is - why has the performance of the FBI and Secret Service deteriorated so badly the last few years? Right after Trump‘s assassination attempt one of the female Secret Service agents couldn’t even holster her gun. Right after New Orleans, we have an obvious incompetent FBI lead saying it wasn’t terrorism when my three-year-old nephew could have told you that it obviously was. And when was the last time you saw an FBI lead giving a crisis presser wearing a focking nose ring? My observation at the time was right on point - we are not a serious people anymore. And instead of addressing this issue head on, lightweights like you wanna come in here and play the PC card. It’s a joke.

I'm not playing the PC card. I do get tired of the knee jerk reactions that some people have though. People who quickly use tragedies like this to push their agendas, whether it be the left trying to ban guns or the right trying to deport people or any other agenda.. It's pretty disgusting to be honest.

joneo · January 2

On 1/1/2025 at 10:22 AM, MDC said:

There it is.

I'm not against banning all trucks. Just the automatic ones. Stickshifts are ok for transportation but NOBODY needs an automatic! And we need more driver education! Maybe hire more social workers to get the job done right.

Herbivore · January 2

18 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

I'd love to see Homan's guys turned loose on that bunch

Something about calling him the Border Czar bothers me. Was it that Border Czar entered the lexicon when Kamala got the root cause role? Rs started calling her the Border Czar, of the failing variety. And then now, it seems that everyone is running with calling this position the Border Czar. I don't think we should be using it for any of the cabinet positions, any govt ones really. This bother anyone else?

Strike · January 2

4 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

Something about calling him the Border Czar bothers me. Was it that Border Czar entered the lexicon when Kamala got the root cause role? Rs started calling her the Border Czar, of the failing variety. And then now, it seems that everyone is running with calling this position the Border Czar. I don't think we should be using it for any of the cabinet positions, any govt ones really. This bother anyone else?

The person who's duties Kamala took over re: the border was called the Border Czar. That's where that term came from. It wasn't made up by Republicans.

MDC · January 2

8 minutes ago, joneo said:

I'm not against banning all trucks. Just the automatic ones. Stickshifts are ok for transportation but NOBODY needs an automatic! And we need more driver education! Maybe hire more social workers to get the job done right.

How do you feel about registration and insurance?

Herbivore · January 2

14 minutes ago, Strike said:

The person who's duties Kamala took over re: the border was called the Border Czar. That's where that term came from. It wasn't made up by Republicans.

ok, I wasn't presenting that as some dig, just that it seemed more to be a bit of a dig at Kamala, and then people are now running with it as a title. who was the former, before Kamala? just curiosity. I don't recall that person.

joneo · January 2

20 minutes ago, MDC said:

How do you feel about registration and insurance?

I'm fine with registration. If a turd steals it, I haveca chance of getting it back. Insurance can reimburse me if I don't get it back.

The Real timschochet · January 2

Back to the topic:

Even though this appears to be the act of a “lone wolf” it is still an act of terrorism by definition: a violent act designed to create terror with a political motive. It checks all the boxes for that.

Even so there ought to be a distinction between this sort of act of terror by a single radicalized individual and the sort planned and executed by an organization (such as 9/11 planned by al-Qaeda. Although this guy appeared to sympathize with ISIS it’s likely he didn’t coordinate his plans with them but acted alone.

Why is it important to make this distinction? Well for one thing it helps to prevent bigots like Trump (or @Hardcore troubadour and others in this thread) from blaming an entire religion or large group of people for the mad acts of a single individual.)

Fireballer · January 2

17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Back to the topic:

Even though this appears to be the act of a “lone wolf” it is still an act of terrorism by definition: a violent act designed to create terror with a political motive. It checks all the boxes for that.

Even so there ought to be a distinction between this sort of act of terror by a single radicalized individual and the sort planned and executed by an organization (such as 9/11 planned by al-Qaeda. Although this guy appeared to sympathize with ISIS it’s likely he didn’t coordinate his plans with them but acted alone.

Why is it important to make this distinction? Well for one thing it helps to prevent bigots like Trump (or @Hardcore troubadour and others in this thread) from blaming an entire religion or large group of people for the mad acts of a single individual.)

So when should we make the distinction…when we know the facts or when your feelings tell you to do so?

Horseman · January 2

17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Back to the topic:

Even though this appears to be the act of a “lone wolf” it is still an act of terrorism by definition: a violent act designed to create terror with a political motive. It checks all the boxes for that.

Even so there ought to be a distinction between this sort of act of terror by a single radicalized individual and the sort planned and executed by an organization (such as 9/11 planned by al-Qaeda. Although this guy appeared to sympathize with ISIS it’s likely he didn’t coordinate his plans with them but acted alone.

Why is it important to make this distinction? Well for one thing it helps to prevent bigots like Trump (or @Hardcore troubadour and others in this thread) from blaming an entire religion or large group of people for the mad acts of a single individual.)

Back to Tim's topic: Defending radical Islam.

People don't willfully kill themselves in the name of Allah without the religion. Root of the problem is the Muslim faith. Fix it or get rid of it. Period. The End.

The Real timschochet · January 2

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

So when should we make the distinction…when we know the facts or when your feelings tell you to do so?

Well we certainly shouldn’t make assumptions within the first few hours as so many folks did here. What I wrote is based on what is currently being reported. If the facts change as they certainly could then I will change with them. But the scapegoating of an entire religion or group of people will NEVER be acceptable no matter what the facts are or turn out to be. That’s why Trump, and those who agree with him on this issue, are behaving so reprehensibly.

Strike · January 2

31 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

ok, I wasn't presenting that as some dig, just that it seemed more to be a bit of a dig at Kamala, and then people are now running with it as a title. who was the former, before Kamala? just curiosity. I don't recall that person.

Roberta Jacobson. So, when Kamala takes on the same responsibilities as the Border Czar, it's reasonable for people to give her the same title. And for a long time she didn't dispute the title. Only when the title became a negative did she and the Biden administration start saying Kamala was NOT the Border Czar.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/547437-border-czar-roberta-jacobson-to-step-down-from-post/

Hardcore troubadour · January 2

1 hour ago, Patented Phil said:

I wasn’t going off. I was trying to figure out what the fock was going on. Was I frustrated that the FBI was incompetent at the start of the investigation? Absolutely. I’m not at all embarrassed to ask the obvious question staring everyone in the face which is - why has the performance of the FBI and Secret Service deteriorated so badly the last few years? Right after Trump‘s assassination attempt one of the female Secret Service agents couldn’t even holster her gun. Right after New Orleans, we have an obvious incompetent FBI lead saying it wasn’t terrorism when my three-year-old nephew could have told you that it obviously was. And when was the last time you saw an FBI lead giving a crisis presser wearing a focking nose ring? My observation at the time was right on point - we are not a serious people anymore. And instead of addressing this issue head on, lightweights like you wanna come in here and play the PC card. It’s a joke.

Hawkeye21 · January 2

27 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Why is it important to make this distinction? Well for one thing it helps to prevent bigots like Trump (or @Hardcore troubadour and others in this thread) from blaming an entire religion or large group of people for the mad acts of a single individual.)

What if the was Satanism? Could we blame the entire religion then?

Hardcore troubadour · January 2

The Muslim religion commands its followers to kill infidels. It’s a death cult and should be treated as such. You can tell by all the killing muslims do in the name of Allah

The Real timschochet · January 2

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Root of the problem is the Muslim faith. Fix it or get rid of it. Period. The End.

This is a simple opinion (from a simple person, but I digress.) The author of this opinion is collectively damning about a billion people world wide, putting them all in the same box, holding them all responsible for the acts of the absolute worst among them.

Horseman’s statement here is, by definition, bigoted. I would say it’s also an evil statement as well, the sort of argument used in recent history justify discrimination, murder, ethnic cleaning and genocide. I hope most reasonable people with be filled with revulsion if they read it, but I don’t know that for sure. At the present time a lot of generally good people are mixed up and listening to their worse demons rather than their better angels.

The Real timschochet · January 2

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What if the was Satanism? Could we blame the entire religion then?

No.

The Real timschochet · January 2

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The Muslim religion commands its followers to kill infidels. It’s a death cult and should be treated as such. You can tell by all the killing muslims do in the name of Allah

More lies:

https://www.alislam.org/question/quran-infidels-killed/

Please educate yourself as you’re deliberately taking the Qu’run out of context in order to spread fear, bigotry and hatred.

Fireballer · January 2

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well we certainly shouldn’t make assumptions within the first few hours as so many folks did here. What I wrote is based on what is currently being reported. If the facts change as they certainly could then I will change with them. But the scapegoating of an entire religion or group of people will NEVER be acceptable no matter what the facts are or turn out to be. That’s why Trump, and those who agree with him on this issue, are behaving so reprehensibly.

Tim, I know you’re wired to think lock step with MSM and bloated government institutions, but use some reasoning here. There’s no fuking way they know, either way, right now. It was farcical from them to go from “we know he is NOT solely responsible” to “he acted alone” I less than 24 hours. The ink is barely dry on the preservation letter and warrant for phone records. And then, to pat yourself on the back for being thinking rationally about it…just sad.

Herbivore · January 2

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

Roberta Jacobson. So, when Kamala takes on the same responsibilities as the Border Czar, it's reasonable for people to give her the same title. And for a long time she didn't dispute the title. Only when the title became a negative did she and the Biden administration start saying Kamala was NOT the Border Czar.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/547437-border-czar-roberta-jacobson-to-step-down-from-post/

the article says she was a special asst and Coordinator of the Southern Border. It calls her the Border Czar, but it doesn't look like from the article that that was the title. Now, like on the Foxnews page, it shows Homan as the Border Czar, like that is the actual title. I don't think we should be using these names. If people use it casually or in articles, fine. Just not the actual title. I don't care if its a D or R thing.

Strike · January 2

Just now, Herbivore said:

the article says she was a special asst and Coordinator of the Southern Border. It calls her the Border Czar, but it doesn't look like from the article that that was the title. Now, like on the Foxnews page, it shows Homan as the Border Czar, like that is the actual title. I don't think we should be using these names. If people use it casually or in articles, fine. Just not the actual title. I don't care if its a D or R thing.

I'm just explaining why Kamala was referred to as the Border Czar. She replaced a lady who had that designation, and neither of them every disputed being called that until it became inconvenient. I agree that we should use official titles but this rewriting of history is getting old.

The Real timschochet · January 2

4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Tim, I know you’re wired to think lock step with MSM and bloated government institutions, but use some reasoning here. There’s no fuking way they know, either way, right now. It was farcical from them to go from “we know he is NOT solely responsible” to “he acted alone” I less than 24 hours. The ink is barely dry on the preservation letter and warrant for phone records. And then, to pat yourself on the back for being thinking rationally about it…just sad.

I don’t pat myself on the back. I wish everyone could think logically about this. Unfortunately this thread demonstrates that they can’t.

EternalShinyAndChrome · January 2

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

I'm just explaining why Kamala was referred to as the Border Czar. She replaced a lady who had that designation, and neither of them every disputed being called that until it became inconvenient. I agree that we should use official titles but this rewriting of history is getting old.

that's exactly what happened. in fact, the left celebrated it. Heck, even the leftist media called her that - until the border became a fiasco.

jbycho · January 2

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t pat myself on the back. I wish everyone could think logically about this. Unfortunately this thread demonstrates that they can’t.

YOU are "they".

Fireballer · January 2

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t pat myself on the back. I wish everyone could think logically about this. Unfortunately this thread demonstrates that they can’t.

You’re right Tim, you’re just oozing with humility.

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

FBI now asserting that he acted alone. Lone wolf.

Again not a surprise to the rational crowd.

EternalShinyAndChrome · January 2

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t pat myself on the back. I wish everyone could think logically about this. Unfortunately this thread demonstrates that they can’t.

Well, we are. We're actually still waiting for YOU to think logically about this. :dunno:

Horseman · January 2

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is a simple opinion (from a simple person, but I digress.) The author of this opinion is collectively damning about a billion people world wide, putting them all in the same box, holding them all responsible for the acts of the absolute worst among them.

Horseman’s statement here is, by definition, bigoted. I would say it’s also an evil statement as well, the sort of argument used in recent history justify discrimination, murder, ethnic cleaning and genocide. I hope most reasonable people with be filled with revulsion if they read it, but I don’t know that for sure. At the present time a lot of generally good people are mixed up and listening to their worse demons rather than their better angels.

How am I holding a billion people responsible? You have a link for that figment of your imagination? No I didn't think so.

Religion, and the promise (which you know nothing about as a certified welcher) it provides is the only thing that compells people to fly airplanes into buildings killing themselves in the process. It's not most Muslims fault, they are just as brainwashed as you are. It's a problem of the religion and even though the majority don't kill westerners, the majority still oppresses women and live in the dark ages. I'm no fan of any religion, but, we'd be way better off if we could make that one disappear.

TimHauck · January 2

Extremely lucky woman here:

https://twitter.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/1874595118017327148

Patented Phil · January 2

48 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

More lies:

https://www.alislam.org/question/quran-infidels-killed/

Please educate yourself as you’re deliberately taking the Qu’run out of context in order to spread fear, bigotry and hatred.

Why are defending this? Seriously. After everything YOUR PEOPLE have suffered through, why do you go out of your way to defend what is - at its very core - a violent passage? Why? Low self esteem? Self loathing? Deep seated guilt? Cowardice?

Regardless of whether the Quran is talking about slaying infidels or idolaters - it is talking about KILLING PEOPLE. Name me one passage from Christ’s teachings that calls for killing anyone, in any context. You won’t find it. Instead, you’ll find passages like “turn the other cheek”, and “forgive them father, they know not what they do”.

There are some great aspects to Islam, but there are also some very serious issues with it that deserve criticism. And the Verse of the Sword is right at the top of the list.

Hardcore troubadour · January 2

Quaran 2:191 “slay the unbelievers wherever you find them “.

Herbivore · January 2

13 minutes ago, Strike said:

I'm just explaining why Kamala was referred to as the Border Czar. She replaced a lady who had that designation, and neither of them every disputed being called that until it became inconvenient. I agree that we should use official titles but this rewriting of history is getting old.

I get that. I am not rewriting history, or arguing with you about what has happened. I am saying we shouldn't be using Czar in our titles. I see it as a Russian title. That other people have accepted it, pushed it, were ok with it, whatever, isn't very significant to me. I guess I could say it never much mattered to me before because I thought it was something that people called it, not the actual title. Maybe its not that, and this time, like previously, the title is Border Administrator(or whatever), and people just use the nickname of Border Czar.

Horseman · January 2

Today "idolaters" means "westerners". We're consumed with things and they hate us for it.

TrailGuy · January 2

A bunch of Catholics rape kids and everyone looks the other way. Funny.

Horseman · January 2

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

A bunch of Catholics rape kids and everyone looks the other way. Funny.

The welcher is back after promising never to post again. Shocker. Zero self control, like a woman.

Everyone isn't looking the other way. The catholic church is responsible for the biggest pedophile organization ever with cover ups reaching all the way to the pope. You should start a thread about it though because posting about it in here looks like a deflection so you can cheer on Islamic terrorists.

Patented Phil · January 2

52 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well we certainly shouldn’t make assumptions within the first few hours as so many folks did here. What I wrote is based on what is currently being reported.

Let’s revisit those early hours, shall we?

On 1/1/2025 at 3:13 PM, The Real timschochet said:

There is no evidence- yet- that he was acting with others.

On 1/1/2025 at 3:29 PM, Patented Phil said:

Other than the FBI saying that others are likely involved?

FBI Special Agent DEI Duncan:

“We do not believe that Jabbar is solely responsible…”

On 1/1/2025 at 3:32 PM, The Real timschochet said:

I didn’t see that, thanks for posting it.

avoiding injuries · January 2

Crime is not “down” just because cities stopped reporting it to the FBI. Some people are fooled so easily.

Hawkeye21 · January 2

15 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

A bunch of Catholics rape kids and everyone looks the other way. Funny.

The Catholic Church ignores it, the public does not. Catholics are not trying to commit mass murder either.

Mark Davis · January 2

18 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

A bunch of Catholics rape kids and everyone looks the other way. Funny.

If you find that funny, you'll find this hilarious

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/dancingboys/transcript/?

The Real timschochet · January 2

20 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Let’s revisit those early hours, shall we?

And now they say they think he was solely responsible. And in truth that makes more sense.

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