Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 2 Did it last year and going for it again. No tobacco, no drugs, no alcohol, no processed food or food prepared by others. 20 hours in and I am feeling as mean as a snake on a hot plate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 519 Posted January 2 What are you talking about? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 2 Looks like I will be able to catch Dead & Company's last weekend at the Sphere. 2000 hours ends a few days before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 2 Just now, MLCKAA said: What are you talking about? Starting the year with 2000 hours of detox and health consciousness before returning to my natural state of indulgence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 519 Posted January 2 10 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Did it last year and going for it again. No tobacco, no drugs, no alcohol, no processed food or food prepared by others. 20 hours in and I am feeling as mean as a snake on a hot plate. Are you collecting water from a stream and distilling it? Even tapwater is processed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 249 Posted January 2 Sounds rather dumb and arbitrary almost like it's not for health reasons. I'm tired of all these dumb challenges, dry whatever, no nut this or that. Why not just make healthy choices and stop with the silly of extreme time boxed rules? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,473 Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Why not just make healthy choices and stop with the silly of extreme time boxed rules? THIS EXACTLY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 3 On 1/2/2025 at 4:54 AM, TrailGuy said: Sounds rather dumb and arbitrary almost like it's not for health reasons. I'm tired of all these dumb challenges, dry whatever, no nut this or that. Why not just make healthy choices and stop with the silly of extreme time boxed rules? It is not a challenge. I don't preseent it to others on youtube or tic tok nor do I encourage others to join me. Just something i do to clear out my lungs and kidneys and liver before engaging in yet another year of profligate debauchery which is my natural and preferred state. i note that the coughing usually starts around 1 week in and it takes until about the sixth week to hack all the stuff out of my lungs. I find i start processing fat a bit more efficiently around the sixth week as well and usually can drop a bit of weight the last few weeks of this. Just passed 60 hours and already the withdrawal from tobacco is easing, though the weekend is now upon me and the first weekend or two can be challenging. I pretty much have resolved that I cannot go out for a weekend or two. Also, I notice that already my truck does not smell of cigarettes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 249 Posted January 3 11 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: It is not a challenge. I don't preseent it to others on youtube or tic tok nor do I encourage others to join me. Just something i do to clear out my lungs and kidneys and liver before engaging in yet another year of profligate debauchery which is my natural and preferred state. i note that the coughing usually starts around 1 week in and it takes until about the sixth week to hack all the stuff out of my lungs. I find i start processing fat a bit more efficiently around the sixth week as well and usually can drop a bit of weight the last few weeks of this. Just passed 60 hours and already the withdrawal from tobacco is easing, though the weekend is now upon me and the first weekend or two can be challenging. I pretty much have resolved that I cannot go out for a weekend or two. Also, I notice that already my truck does not smell of cigarettes. I spent the holiday season watching a loved one die of lung cancer in the hospital. I can assure you 83 days of the year will not stop the inevitable. You either quit for good or suffer the same fate. I hope you quit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,752 Posted January 3 31 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: It is not a challenge. I don't preseent it to others on youtube or tic tok nor do I encourage others to join me. Just something i do to clear out my lungs and kidneys and liver before engaging in yet another year of profligate debauchery which is my natural and preferred state. i note that the coughing usually starts around 1 week in and it takes until about the sixth week to hack all the stuff out of my lungs. I find i start processing fat a bit more efficiently around the sixth week as well and usually can drop a bit of weight the last few weeks of this. Just passed 60 hours and already the withdrawal from tobacco is easing, though the weekend is now upon me and the first weekend or two can be challenging. I pretty much have resolved that I cannot go out for a weekend or two. Also, I notice that already my truck does not smell of cigarettes. Move to smokeless nicotine vapes, gum, or pouches. I have relapsed hard in my nicotine usage, but using these products does not leave me feeling like I do after smoking cigars/cigarettes. Draft weekend was always especially egregious, where I would go weeks or months without tobacco but then chain smoked for 48 hours. I switched to vapes and I no longer get the headaches or vicious cough I had with smoked tobacco. I will not claim they are safer, simply that they do not have the same deleterious short term effects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,537 Posted January 3 On 1/1/2025 at 7:05 PM, Engorgeous George said: Did it last year and going for it again. No tobacco, no drugs, no alcohol, no processed food or food prepared by others. 20 hours in and I am feeling as mean as a snake on a hot plate. What are your qualifications for food not being processed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,794 Posted January 3 I love Kathy Bates as an actress, but 2000 hours of Misery is a step too far for even me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 3 2 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: What are your qualifications for food not being processed? If it is sold in a cellophane bag, a box, a can, a carton. If it comes with directions for preparation. If it is a combination of multiple ingredients If anywhere on it there is a brand name. So no DeGiornos, Tostitos, Diet Mt. Dew, Blue Bunny or Ben and Jerry's. No Cheese. I do allow myself Fage zero sugar yogurt. I also get eggs, salt, tobasco, and wheat and rye flour. Also the bags of beans I buy technically have a brand name but they are in no way processed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 3 2 hours ago, Fnord said: Move to smokeless nicotine vapes, gum, or pouches. I have relapsed hard in my nicotine usage, but using these products does not leave me feeling like I do after smoking cigars/cigarettes. Draft weekend was always especially egregious, where I would go weeks or months without tobacco but then chain smoked for 48 hours. I switched to vapes and I no longer get the headaches or vicious cough I had with smoked tobacco. I will not claim they are safer, simply that they do not have the same deleterious short term effects. In the last 55 years of smoking I have stopped for 5 years once and two years once. I also managed six months a few times. In the end I always return. Even after the five year stint I still was a smoker in my dreams. I have no illusions about the damage I have done and the cancer risks. I do know this, however, after taking a time out for 2000 hours my blood oxygen goes up and my chest x-rays look better to my doc and she does not hear the pre-emphysema rattle in my lungs. Also, when I inevitably return to smoking I do so at reduced levels, at first. I don't get to the worst of it for several months and then I start over. At first a half pack a day seems to suffice for a couple of months until I ratchet it up, inexorably to a pack a day or more. Getting off caffeine is always a week long headache. After, though, I end up drinking a lot more water which is good, it gets things flushed out, a bit. I did try vapes for a bit. I may go back to them. Not as expensive or stinky as smoking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,807 Posted January 3 Lettuce comes in a cellophane bag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 3 On 1/3/2025 at 2:40 PM, lickin_starfish said: Lettuce comes in a cellophane bag. Some sure does. If you are looking for inconsistencies i am sure you could find them. This is not a religion or a philosophy. It is basically the guidelines of, and a rough discription of what I am doing and have done in the past. The hard and fast rules are no nicotine and no caffeine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,482 Posted January 4 Make the hours match the year. 2025 hours this year. Then by year 8760, you'll just be doing it year round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,482 Posted January 4 I applaud the initiative. I don't believe people should live life in such a way that the sole purpose is prolonging the life. What's the point of living if you can't do anything? Just live. Do what you want and then die. May be a touch nihilistic, but I guess that's the natural pull of a non-religious existence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,537 Posted January 4 4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: If it is sold in a cellophane bag, a box, a can, a carton. If it comes with directions for preparation. If it is a combination of multiple ingredients If anywhere on it there is a brand name. So no DeGiornos, Tostitos, Diet Mt. Dew, Blue Bunny or Ben and Jerry's. No Cheese. I do allow myself Fage zero sugar yogurt. I also get eggs, salt, tobasco, and wheat and rye flour. Also the bags of beans I buy technically have a brand name but they are in no way processed. Fage is a brand. I'm guessing it comes in a plastic container. Eggs come in a carton. I mean, making an effort to eat healthy is always commendable and i'm not downing on it. Just sounds a little arbitrary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,075 Posted January 4 going on about 3 years like that, how long is that in hours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,075 Posted January 4 4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: If it is sold in a cellophane bag, a box, a can, a carton. If it comes with directions for preparation. If it is a combination of multiple ingredients If anywhere on it there is a brand name. So no DeGiornos, Tostitos, Diet Mt. Dew, Blue Bunny or Ben and Jerry's. No Cheese. I do allow myself Fage zero sugar yogurt. I also get eggs, salt, tobasco, and wheat and rye flour. Also the bags of beans I buy technically have a brand name but they are in no way processed. you'd do yourself more of a favor removing the flour and eating as much yogurt as you want, as well as cheese Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 4 Just now, WhiteWonder said: Fage is a brand. I'm guessing it comes in a plastic container. Eggs come in a carton. I mean, making an effort to eat healthy is always commendable and i'm not downing on it. Just sounds a little arbitrary. It is completely arbitrary. I never maintained my efforts strictly complied with the general guidelines or discription of what I do. I was asked what i do. I summarized, generally as there are no hard and fast rules to this other than no smoking. Thus far, coming up on hour 70 I have had no cigarettes or cigars, nor have I smoked anything else. I have consumed no alcohol or drugs. I have consumed no caffeine. I have eaten eggs ,salmon, chicken (skinless) broccoli, spinich, pineapple,green beans, peas, cantalope. oranges, onion, and carrots. Tomorrow morning I am likely to have one of the three yogurts i have left in the frig before I head out to work out. I am planning a spinich salad for lunch with smoked salmon (I know one could argue that is processed but in this case I smoked it), pineapple, blue berries, onion, broccoli, pea pods and whateveer else is laying around in the fridge. The Packer game will be tough on me as generally I like to watch with a few beers, a few cigarettes or a cigar, some buffalo wings, and a bit of blow if they win. As that does not comport with my current effort I am going to have to struggle through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 4 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you'd do yourself more of a favor removing the flour and eating as much yogurt as you want, as well as cheese I eat very little flour, but occassionally I like a sandwich. A loaf of bread easily lasts me a week. I do not eat muffins, bisquits, pancakes, or dumplings or any other manner in which folks eat flour. Just somebread for a sandwich every other day. Also no noodles or rice as they make my blood sugar go crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 4 Red beans seem to spike my blood sugar as well so I use them in moderation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,075 Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I eat very little flour, but occassionally I like a sandwich. A loaf of bread easily lasts me a week. I do not eat muffins, bisquits, pancakes, or dumplings or any other manner in which folks eat flour. Just somebread for a sandwich every other day. Also no noodles or rice as they make my blood sugar go crazy. gotcha, grab a keto bread while youre at it at least, might as well cut those carbs also I eat all the things you listed but make them all myself, with almond flour, I made a killer boysenberry cobbler last weekend check out Aldi for Heart of palm rice, noodles and "mashed" potatoes, really good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 4 I have to get use to pissing more often. Normally i go around dehydrated, but when I do this I consume a lot of water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 4 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: gotcha, grab a keto bread while youre at it at least, might as well cut those carbs also I eat all the things you listed but make them all myself, with almond flour, I made a killer boysenberry cobbler last weekend The rest of the year I do use this. I eschew it while I do this as I stick to the produce section of my local Sprouts. I get my keto bread in the baked goods section of my Kroger and I do not go near there while I do this. I suppose when I don't feel like baking my wife would pick me up some. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 4 On the rare occassions that I will visit the Safeway or King Soopers near me when I do this I only go through the produce aisle, meat, and dairy. 90 percent of the store does not apply to me when I do this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 4 11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: gotcha, grab a keto bread while youre at it at least, might as well cut those carbs also I eat all the things you listed but make them all myself, with almond flour, I made a killer boysenberry cobbler last weekend check out Aldi for Heart of palm rice, noodles and "mashed" potatoes, really good Never heard of Aldi. Apparently there is one only 54 miles from my current location. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,075 Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Never heard of Aldi. Apparently there is one only 54 miles from my current location. they have some really good selections for Keto type things, the things I mentioned as well as Keto pita, bagels and such almond cookies (not with sugar) almond crackers etc and its cheaper than a regular albertsons type store Palmini Hearts of Palm Pasta - 12 oz by Palmini - Exclusive Offer at $4.29 on Netrition Palmini Hearts of Palm Pasta, Linguine | Thrive Market Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,289 Posted January 4 An old coke head. That’s funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 935 Posted January 4 Do you feel real high when you get back at it after 2 weeks? Like the first time you smoked, high? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,856 Posted January 4 19 hours ago, cmh6476 said: Do you feel real high when you get back at it after 2 weeks? Like the first time you smoked, high? This is just a shade under 12 weeks, not two. As for noticing effects, nothing as far as intoxication. I do notice I can breath better at the end and I sleep better after a week or so. When I finish I always notice how sweet tobacco smells before you light it, something that goes away in a day or so but something that reminds me of way back when I first started smoking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
