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59 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Iโ€™m not surprised that Trump immediately attacked Newsom and Newsom responded by immediately attacking Trump. But I find it unfortunate and depressing. I donโ€™t like either of these two politicians.ย 

Say what you will about Joe Biden, but all he does in these situations is offer to help. So sick and tired of the blame game.ย 

What has Bidenย offered?

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

What all Presidents do

Typically without a bunch of trolling. Except you know who.

Thanks. :cheers:

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After all these hillsides burn, then come mudslides typically when there are some big rains hit. Crazy. Rebuilding on these hills will be something.ย 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thanks. No their insurance is fine. But thereโ€™s still no confirmation about their house and wonโ€™t be for a few days. Perhaps some houses survived; apparently the Getty did so why not? Weโ€™ll keep on hoping until we know.ย 

ย Please tell me you arenโ€™t this fawking stoopid. Insurance claims and companies are fine? You have confirmed to me timmay that you are a complete and total moron. Shut up, sit down, and stop being such a a dumb ass. Iโ€™ve seen ignorance, but you rank up there with them.

ย I got an email today from a fellow insurance adjuster who was flying to LA to handle these fire claims there. He was fawking begging me to be there by Sunday to be on his team. He also told me itโ€™s a fawking shiot show there. The big insurance providers refused to allow seventy percent of their insurance policies because the insurance companies wanted a rate increase for fire and wind. The state politicians voted it down. And the majority of those home owners could pay for it but the state government said no! I saw this fawking bullshiot after Katrina and more. I was going to be on his right after Isaac hit NY and Jersey. No fawking way I was going to that shiot show with the politicians demanding ecrtain aspects of it. I wanted to but I knew it would be crazy just like this diastor. I was a storm trooper in the eighties and I went to San Fran after the earthquake. I left after a month. Not worth it, even though I wanted to help.

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10 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

ย Please tell me you arenโ€™t this fawking stoopid. Insurance claims and companies are fine? You have confirmed to me timmay that you are a complete and total moron. Shut up, sit down, and stop being such a a dumb ass. Iโ€™ve seen ignorance, but you rank up there with them.

ย I got an email today from a fellow insurance adjuster who was flying to LA to handle these fire claims there. He was fawking begging me to be there by Sunday to be on his team. He also told me itโ€™s a fawking shiot show there. The big insurance providers refused to allow seventy percent of their insurance policies because the insurance companies wanted a rate increase for fire and wind. The state politicians voted it down. And the majority of those home owners could pay for it but the state government said no! I saw this fawking bullshiot after Katrina and more. I was going to be on his right after Isaac hit NY and Jersey. No fawking way I was going to that shiot show with the politicians demanding ecrtain aspects of it. I wanted to but I knew it would be crazy just like this diastor. I was a storm trooper in the eighties and I went to San Fran after the earthquake. I left after a month. Not worth it, even though I wanted to help.

No idea why you chose to respond to me this way. I was asked if my in laws had insurance or if it had already been cancelled. I replied yes they had insurance , thatโ€™s all I meant. What happens next I have no clue. Will the insurance company cover their losses (assuming the house is lost?) No idea. I certainly hope so. Guess weโ€™ll find out.ย 

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As I wrote before the folks in the Palisades are pretty wealthy. Many of them are Republican, like my FIL. Some of them are big time Trump donors. Some of them are big time Democratic donors. I have a feeling theyโ€™ll end up getting their insurance money. These people usually end up getting what they want.ย 

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12 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

This is some apocalyptic shitt. ย Prayers for all those affected. ๐Ÿ™

It really is. Just raining embers, sky pitch black middle of the day.

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Look I know people come first but in these situations I also think about the poor animals being roasted alive. Sucks. ย 

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15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Look I know people come first but in these situations I also think about the poor animals being roasted alive. Sucks. ย 

You have POS who have to evacuate leave pets behind. Sickeningย 

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2 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

You have POS who have to evacuate leave pets behind. Sickeningย 

Horrible. Iโ€™m also talking about animals in the wild

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This is what a burning city looks like, not a trash dumpster some meth-fueled thugs lit up en route to looting a liquor store to take advantage of the chaos.

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Look I know people come first but in these situations I also think about the poor animals being roasted alive. Sucks. ย 

Yet you wish rape and death on other people's kids.

Sick.

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17 minutes ago, Death said:

Yet you wish rape and death on other people's kids.

Sick.

Never wished death. ย No need to hype it up Rusty. ย You useless sack of shitt.ย 

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9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Never wished death. ย No need to hype it up Rusty. ย You useless sack of shitt.ย 

Oh, so you admit you wished rape.

Nice job.

Have a great evening.

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6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Confirmed that my FILโ€™s house is gone.ย 

:(ย My condolences,ย Tim.

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9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Confirmed that my FILโ€™s house is gone.ย 

damn. sorry, bro.

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5 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

:(ย My condolences,ย Tim.

Thanks. Itโ€™s really hitting my wife hard. She moved to that house when she was 5 and grew up there.ย 
But houses can be replaced, people canโ€™t. My in laws are safe and sound which is what matters.ย 

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20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Confirmed that my FILโ€™s house is gone.ย 

Very sorry.

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glad they are safe.

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@OldMaid

@mobb_deep

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where are you guys?

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40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Confirmed that my FILโ€™s house is gone.ย 

Damn man, I'm sorry.ย  For all our differences and the bs and kidding I engage in definitely thinking of all the folks out there tonight.

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12 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

No Iโ€™m not, but some folks in here looking to use this as an excuse to attack liberals (not that they ever need one) is focking disgusting. I could just as easily attack conservatives for ignoring climate change, and with a whole lot more merit, but Iโ€™m not going to do that, becauseย 

Everything you say about global warming is idiotic.ย  Every proposal ever made by leftist authoritarian bastards was to create massive bureaucracies and to put money in their pockets.ย  All their proposals would ever do is subsidize industries to move into poor countries where they could hire cheap labor and pollute even more.ย  Gore would have been a multi-billionare with all the cap and trade BS.ย  The solution has always been simple, as i said in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s....nuclear power.ย  Every other proposal is complete waste and fraud nonsense made by greedy power-hungry bastards who seriously don't give a fuk about anything but being authoritarian bastards.ย 

Democrats have many serious problems over their disasters and fires.ย  From the Ghana trip, water management, forest management, cuts to the fire department, incompetence in the fire department, FEMA being politically-driven, Biden flying out and shutting down airspace for half a day interfering with firefighters, Biden diverting funds from FEMA to pay for housing for illegals, funding these idiotic wars instead of helping at home.ย 

$1,000,000,000,000 for Ukraine vs. $650ย  for Americans facing disasters is more than just bad optics.

And BTW, my sister lost her home to these fires.ย ย 

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Resurfaced clips from the โ€œJoe Rogan Experienceโ€ show that the mega podcaster has been warning the โ€œright windโ€ will catch one of Californiaโ€™s many wildfires and โ€œburn through LA to the ocean.โ€

Rogan, 57, was eerily wearing a Los Angeles Fire Department shirt whileย speakingย with fellow comic Sam Morril in July and was sharing why he left Los Angeles โ€” one of the reasons being that he was always โ€œwaiting for the next fire.โ€

โ€œI was evacuated three times from my house from fires,โ€ Rogan said. โ€œLast one, two houses in front of my house burnt to the ground.โ€

The UFC commentator said seeing the raging inferno approaching was โ€œfโ€“king scary,โ€ and he and his wife decided to leave with their kids before an evacuation order was put into effect, adding that the fire eventually โ€œswept throughโ€ and destroyed โ€œ40 housesโ€ in his neighborhood.

Rogan then said that one of the things that โ€œfreakedโ€ him out was when he spoke with an unnamed fireman, pointing out that he was donning a department shirt.

He goes, โ€˜One day, itโ€™s just going to be the right wind, and fireโ€™s gonna start in the right place, and itโ€™s going to burn through LA all the way to the ocean, and thereโ€™s not a fโ€“king thing we can do about it,'โ€ he recalled.

Rogan said the fireman told him that people in LA โ€œget lucky with the windโ€ and that itโ€™s a crapshoot when one of these fires becomes unstoppable.

The podcasterโ€™s story about the firefighterโ€™s warning is something he has reiterated for years on his show.

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19 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Will this have any affect on the playoff game?ย 

They are planning to play.ย  But said the alternative plan would be Monday in Arizona.ย 

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10 hours ago, thegeneral said:

After all these hillsides burn, then come mudslides typically when there are some big rains hit. Crazy. Rebuilding on these hills will be stupid.

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11 hours ago, nobody said:

Yeah, we had some program giving out free money to illegals awhile back.ย  Probably could've spent it on maintenance.

If illegals were fire resistant we could have lined the hills with them.

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1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

Resurfaced clips from the โ€œJoe Rogan Experienceโ€ show that the mega podcaster has been warning the โ€œright windโ€ will catch one of Californiaโ€™s๏ปฟ many wildfires and โ€œburn through LA to the ocean.โ€

Rogan, 57, was eerily wearing a Los Angeles Fire Department shirt whileย speakingย with fellow comic Sam Morril in July and was sharing why he left Los Angeles โ€” one of the reasons being that he was always โ€œwaiting for the next fire.โ€

โ€œI was evacuated three times from my house from fires,โ€ Rogan said. โ€œLast one, two houses in front of my house burnt to the ground.โ€

The UFC commentator said seeing the raging inferno approaching was โ€œfโ€“king scary,โ€ and he and his wife decided to leave with their kids before an evacuation order was put into effect, adding that the fire eventually โ€œswept throughโ€ and destroyed โ€œ40 housesโ€ in his neighborhood.

Rogan then said that one of the things that โ€œfreakedโ€ him out was when he spoke with an unnamed fireman, pointing out that he was donning a department shirt.

He goes, โ€˜One day, itโ€™s just going to be the right wind, and fireโ€™s gonna start in the right place, and itโ€™s going to burn through LA all the way to the ocean, and thereโ€™s not a fโ€“king thing we can do about it,'โ€ he recalled.

Rogan said the fireman told him that people in LA โ€œget lucky with the windโ€ and that itโ€™s a๏ปฟ crapshoot when one of these fires becomes unstoppable.

The podcasterโ€™s story about the firefighterโ€™s warning is something he has reiterated for years on his show.

Sounds like one of those nutty conspiracy theories.ย  Our watchdog media would warn us if thst was a real threat.ย  Instead we need to keep a really close eye on those crazy right-wing white nationalists who may just stop a bunch of trannies from ready stories to 6-year Olds.ย  ย That is the real threat to America.ย  ย 

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3 hours ago, jonmx said:

Everything you say about global warming is idiotic.ย  Every proposal ever made by leftist authoritarian bastards was to create massive bureaucracies and to put money in their pockets.ย  All their proposals would ever do is subsidize industries to move into poor countries where they could hire cheap labor and pollute even more.ย  Gore would have been a multi-billionare with all the cap and trade BS.ย  The solution has always been simple, as i said in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s....nuclear power.ย  Every other proposal is complete waste and fraud nonsense made by greedy power-hungry bastards who seriously don't give a fuk about anything but being authoritarian bastards.ย 

Democrats have many serious problems over their disasters and fires.ย  From the Ghana trip, water management, forest management, cuts to the fire department, incompetence in the fire department, FEMA being politically-driven, Biden flying out and shutting down airspace for half a day interfering with firefighters, Biden diverting funds from FEMA to pay for housing for illegals, funding these idiotic wars instead of helping at home.ย 

$1,000,000,000,000 for Ukraine vs. $650ย  for Americans facing disasters is more than just bad optics.

And BTW, my sister lost her home to these fires.ย ย 

As usual I strongly disagree with almost all of your political points here. And in the case of climate change it goes beyond even disagreement as I believe you are deliberately choosing to ignore science and evidence,ย 

But that being said I am sorry for your sister.ย 

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4 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Sounds like one of those nutty conspiracy theories.ย  Our watchdog media would warn us if thst was a real threat.ย  Instead we need to keep a really close eye on those crazy right-wing white nationalists who may just stop a bunch of trannies from ready stories to 6-year Olds.ย  ย That is the real threat to America.ย  ย 

Hey dumbfuk. This isnโ€™t some crazy revelation that was being hidden. There are canyons everywhere itโ€™s dry as hell and there were 100 mph winds when a fire occurred. Raking the forest or whatever wasnโ€™t going to do anything.

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

As usual I strongly disagree with almost all of your political points here. And in the case of climate change it goes beyond even disagreement as I believe you are deliberately choosing to ignore science and evidence,ย 

But that being said I am sorry for your sister.ย 

What the fuk are you talking about, science and evidence?ย  ย There is nothing I said about global warming which is counter to any science and evidence.ย  You always pull 'the science' card to gaslight and not even make a single point.ย  Cap and trade was just a shell game, it would have done nothing to reduce carbon emissions except move industry to poor nations with no carbon restrictions.ย  ย All these random caps they put on emissions have done nothing.ย  ย They have had no one real concrete proposal to reduce emissions.ย  It is not even clear electric cars offer any carbon footprint benefit.ย  ย The only solution that could of had a real impact to emissions was nuclear power.ย  And that has been the obvious solution for 40 years but never proposed.ย  ย Why???ย  Because they really do not give a fuk about global warming.ย ย 

Regardless, what has happened to tens of thousands of families and counting is absolutely horrendous.ย  ย Escapong from your home as flames engulf your neighbors home is not an experience i would want to live through.ย  Hopefully there is more help from the feds than they provided in NC.ย  And hopefully firefighters can get the fire under control.ย 

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15 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Hey dumbfuk. This isnโ€™t some crazy revelation that was being hidden. There are canyons everywhere itโ€™s dry as hell and there were 100 mph winds when a fire occurred. Raking the forest or whatever wasnโ€™t going to do anything.

Fuk you retard.ย  ย I am sick of you fuking retards going on and on about fake problems while ignoring the real ones.ย  ย Fuking bootlicking retards leftists have nearly destroyed this country.ย  The people you support openly hate everything America stands for, but you are too fuking stupid to realize it.ย 

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3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

What the fuk are you talking about, science and evidence?ย  ย There is nothing I said about global warming which is counter to any science and evidence.ย  You always pull 'the science' card to gaslight and not even make a single point.ย  Cap and trade was just a shell game, it would have done nothing to reduce carbon emissions except move industry to poor nations with no carbon restrictions.ย  ย All these random caps they put on emissions have done nothing.ย  ย They have had no one real concrete proposal to reduce emissions.ย  It is not even clear electric cars offer any carbon footprint benefit.ย  ย The only solution that could of had a real impact to emissions was nuclear power.ย  And that has been the obvious solution for 40 years but never proposed.ย  ย Why???ย  Because they really do not give a fuk about global warming.ย ย 

Regardless, what has happened to tens of thousands of families and counting is absolutely horrendous.ย  ย Escapong from your home as flames engulf your neighbors home is not an experience i would want to live through.ย  Hopefully there is more help from the feds than they provided in NC.ย  And hopefully firefighters can get the fire under control.ย 

I agree with you about nuclear power and of course I agree with your second paragraph. Letโ€™s leave it at that for this morning.ย 

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This was posted at FBG by BobbyLayne:ย 

Millions of views spreading lies about the Palsiades firefighters lacking water because of regulations, the boring truth comes late like usualย and wonโ€™t be shared:ย 

1. Reservoirs and tanks were at normal levels and completely full before the fires.ย 

2. All 114 city water supplies were fully stocked pre-fire.ย 

3. A 15 hour surge at four times normal demand reduced water pressure.ย 

4. High demand at lower elevations slowed filling tanks at higher elevations.ย 

5. This unprecedented fire was fueled by 8 months of no rain and 85mph winds. Water is being brought in continuously.ย 

6. Even if the protection of the Delta Smelt caused over regulation in California, ย itโ€™s the FEDERAL Endangered Species Act that requires the protection of endangered species like the Delta Smelt and their habitats, not Gavin Newsom of California.ย 

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5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This was posted at FBG by BobbyLayne:ย 

Millions of views spreading lies about the Palsiades firefighters lacking water because of regulations, the boring truth comes late like usualย and wonโ€™t be shared:ย 

1. Reservoirs and tanks were at normal levels and completely full before the fires.ย 

2. All 114 city water supplies were fully stocked pre-fire.ย 

3. A 15 hour surge at four times normal demand reduced water pressure.ย 

4. High demand at lower elevations slowed filling tanks at higher elevations.ย 

5. This unprecedented fire was fueled by 8 months of no rain and 85mph winds. Water is being brought in continuously.ย 

6. Even if the protection of the Delta Smelt caused over regulation in California, ย itโ€™s the FEDERAL Endangered Species Act that requires the protection of endangered species like the Delta Smelt and their habitats, not Gavin Newsom of California.ย 

This will be completely ignored by those here trying to score immediate political points from a tragedy. @jonmx

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