Elon musk access to the treasury

[Red White and Blue 81]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Let's start with Hunter Biden and the corruption his laptop has revealed, and which Democrats and the DOJ worked diligently to try to discredit.

Unless you can trot out some indication that in the past you saw it, called it out, and objected to that,.....then your sudden moral high ground on current events is something I will tend to question.

Don't get me wrong, I take heart that liberals CAN actually see something amiss.....but lament that it is not present.....during other situations....

How is that investigation going, btw?

Ready to admit you were wrong?  

[TrailGuy 552]

Trump just terminated funding for polio, HIV, malaria, and nutrition programs around the world, including:

* A $131 million grant to UNICEF's polio immunization program

* A $90 million contract with the company Chemonics for bed nets, malaria tests and treatments

[RLLD 4,100]

3 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

so weaksauce. that's fine. when it comes to this, maybe it won't matter. starlink? verizon? is there some significant difference? on my own, I wouldn't know. the lengths you go to blame lefties or not hold righties accountable is quite hilarious. i think both sides do this, but the "now you care about <insert issue>" argument is pretty weak overall. 

What part of me already echoing an objection to the Verizon situation.....is as you say "weak sauce". Are you suggesting I am now in the wrong for remaining philosophically honest? I mean, given the liberal credibility gap on such things, it adds up.

But see, the fact that "I" called out the Biden corruption, and have now also echoed a concern on this one.....separates me from the likes of say you.....whos morality is based on a political power structure.

[RLLD 4,100]

5 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said:

How is that investigation going, btw?

Ready to admit you were wrong?  

I was not wrong, as usual....I was correct.  And later, I seriously hope it gets exposed, and then I will take hours....and hours....replying to all of your attempts here to protect vile and corrupt power......

[listen2me 23 1,799]

India's first clinic dedicated to trans people is shutting down because of the freeze.  

Why are we funding trans clinics in India?  

[Red White and Blue 81]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I was not wrong, as usual....I was correct.  And later, I seriously hope it gets exposed, and then I will take hours....and hours....replying to all of your attempts here to protect vile and corrupt power......

It will probably get exposed in 10 years, right around the time Trump’s policies bring prices down!  

[RLLD 4,100]

1 minute ago, Red White and Blue said:

It will probably get exposed in 10 years, right around the time Trump’s policies bring prices down!  

I hope its not that long, on average the Democrat corruption has been exposed in a few years......after the media and DOJ worked hard to protect them.   So lets wait, I am patient....I do not need speed on this, I just want it to come down on moronic liberals like a focking uru hammer.

[Red White and Blue 81]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I hope its not that long, on average the Democrat corruption has been exposed in a few years......after the media and DOJ worked hard to protect them.   So lets wait, I am patient....I do not need speed on this, I just want it to come down on moronic liberals like a focking uru hammer.

And hey, if it never happens you can just kick the can down the road, Trump’s specialty.  

[RLLD 4,100]

Just now, Red White and Blue said:

And hey, if it never happens you can just kick the can down the road, Trump’s specialty.  

I accept that it could be true that the DOJ may have eliminated some of the evidence,  and whistleblowers are already stating as much....but, I have seen enough....not unlike you and yours here with the Verizon thing....to understand there was a problem.  I leave it to you.....to only see a problem for one side, and allow the other to be criminal......

[Herbivore 1,102]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What part of me already echoing an objection to the Verizon situation.....is as you say "weak sauce". Are you suggesting I am now in the wrong for remaining philosophically honest? I mean, given the liberal credibility gap on such things, it adds up.

But see, the fact that "I" called out the Biden corruption, and have now also echoed a concern on this one.....separates me from the likes of say you.....whos morality is based on a political power structure.

I wasn't calling the bolded weaksauce, it was more the Hunter Biden example of your attempt to whine about lefties. the fact that everytime something suspect is done by the Rs you contort yourself to whine or blame the Ds. I saw your post about agreeing with Tim, and that included the part whining that Ds don't call out their own, which is nonsense. 

[RLLD 4,100]

2 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

I wasn't calling the bolded weaksauce, it was more the Hunter Biden example of your attempt to whine about lefties. the fact that everytime something suspect is done by the Rs you contort yourself to whine or blame the Ds. I saw your post about agreeing with Tim, and that included the part whining that Ds don't call out their own, which is nonsense. 

I see.  Well, its not weak.....what is weak....is your inclination to allow it for one set of individuals because you want to protect the Democrats farcical stance that they are moral......while you suddenly see it elsewhere.....in your political opponents.

So if I happen to roll my eyes at your and yours....its because people like you ensure that corruption can live.....for one side at least.  You prioritize your political desires over actual morality.

[Red White and Blue 81]

5 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

I wasn't calling the bolded weaksauce, it was more the Hunter Biden example of your attempt to whine about lefties. the fact that everytime something suspect is done by the Rs you contort yourself to whine or blame the Ds. I saw your post about agreeing with Tim, and that included the part whining that Ds don't call out their own, which is nonsense. 

Nailed it.  

[TrailGuy 552]

17 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 I leave it to you.....to only see a problem for one side, and allow the other to be criminal......

Says the guy who voted for Trump 

[Fnord 1,920]

24 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 Are you suggesting I am now in the wrong for remaining philosophically honest? I mean, given the liberal credibility gap on such things, it adds up.

But see, the fact that "I" called out the Biden corruption, and have now also echoed a concern on this one.....separates me from the likes of say you.....whos morality is based on a political power structure.

 

13 minutes ago, RLLD said:

  I leave it to you.....to only see a problem for one side, and allow the other to be criminal......

Come on man! You are doing the exact thing that you are whining about the libs doing. You are NOT remaining philosophically honest. 

[Herbivore 1,102]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I see.  Well, its not weak.....what is weak....is your inclination to allow it for one set of individuals because you want to protect the Democrats farcical stance that they are moral......while you suddenly see it elsewhere.....in your political opponents.

So if I happen to roll my eyes at your and yours....its because people like you ensure that corruption can live.....for one side at least.  You prioritize your political desires over actual morality.

it is weak. you are wrong about your inclination as well. I haven't protected any Ds. I haven't called out Rs supposed corruption. I am more pointing out how you run to the Rs back every time. You are wildly biased ray. 

[RLLD 4,100]

4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Says the guy who voted for Trump 

I always get a good laugh out of that....trotting out the repugnant abuses of your people like some badge of honor....expecting it to work as an insult, when all it does is remind us of the levels of abuse you are willing to accept....it strengthens the resolve to oppose everything you are and do

[RLLD 4,100]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

 

Come on man! You are doing the exact thing that you are whining about the libs doing. You are NOT remaining philosophically honest. 

Pretending that I have not called out both sides wont work here.  For the moment I will presume you are somehow unaware that at least "I" have called out both.  Do not assume I am like you.....I am not.....and I find such correlations to be rather insulting, I am far better than you.

[RLLD 4,100]

5 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

it is weak. you are wrong about your inclination as well. I haven't protected any Ds. I haven't called out Rs supposed corruption. I am more pointing out how you run to the Rs back every time. You are wildly biased ray. 

You have protected, right here on this forearm, you are defacto doing so right now in fact.  I am absolutely biased....against criminals and people such as yourself who are willing to allow criminality for some, and only pretend to be moral when politically expedient.

[Fnord 1,920]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Pretending that I have not called out both sides wont work here.  For the moment I will presume you are somehow unaware that at least "I" have called out both.  Do not assume I am like you.....I am not.....and I find such correlations to be rather insulting, I am far better than you.

By what metrics? Again, this bullshit used to be beneath you, but here you are. Disappointing. 

I've been every bit as hard on Dems, if not more, than you have on Reps. But somehow you have the market cornered on philosophical honesty. 

[Herbivore 1,102]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You have protected, right here on this forearm, you are defacto doing so right now in fact.  I am absolutely biased....against criminals and people such as yourself who are willing to allow criminality for some, and only pretend to be moral when politically expedient.

 calling out ray's bias is defacto protecting Ds! you're the best. 

[RLLD 4,100]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

By what metrics? Again, this bullshit used to be beneath you, but here you are. Disappointing. 

I've been every bit as hard on Dems, if not more, than you have on Reps. But somehow you have the market cornered on philosophical honesty. 

By your positions and failure to call out issues equitably.  That alone sets me apart from you. I dont have the market cornered, and I am probably not that great at it....which should tell you a little something about your lacking in this area

[RLLD 4,100]

2 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

 calling out ray's bias is defacto protecting Ds! you're the best. 

I consider it a worthy pursuit.

So again.....if I roll my eyes when people...such as yourself....might find some temporary morality.....and we happen to agree....its because I am bemused.

[Fnord 1,920]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

By your positions and failure to call out issues equitably.  That alone sets me apart from you. I dont have the market cornered, and I am probably not that great at it....which should tell you a little something about your lacking in this area

LOL. We've had a lot of back and forths. I call out Dems regularly. Fully admitted the party is garbage and Biden/Harris sucked. That does set us apart, you're right. I don't run around here claiming irrefutable philosophical honesty, that's your jam. In my experience those that make a show of pointing out their superiority in certain aspects of life are liars that only wish they had those qualities in the abundance they claim.

[RLLD 4,100]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

LOL. We've had a lot of back and forths. I call out Dems regularly. Fully admitted the party is garbage and Biden/Harris sucked. That does set us apart, you're right. I don't run around here claiming irrefutable philosophical honesty, that's your jam. In my experience those that make a show of pointing out their superiority in certain aspects of life are liars that only wish they had those qualities in the abundance they claim.

If it is then true that I have overlooked your instances of holding Democrats accountable then I apologize for making that assertion.   Could it be true that you could produce where you were equitably critical of the Hunter Biden laptop situation, since that was my correlation?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,638]

lol. Now democrats care about conflicts. Holy shitt.  

[Fnord 1,920]

Just now, RLLD said:

If it is then true that I have overlooked your instances of holding Democrats accountable then I apologize for making that assertion.   Could it be true that you could produce where you were equitably critical of the Hunter Biden laptop situation, since that was my correlation?

While I did initially scoff at the laptop story, I admitted as much when it proved to be "true." I have been extremely consistent in the ethos of investigating anyone that evidence suggests should be investigated. 

Apology accepted.

[RLLD 4,100]

Just now, Fnord said:

While I did initially scoff at the laptop story, I admitted as much when it proved to be "true." I have been extremely consistent in the ethos of investigating anyone that evidence suggests should be investigated. 

Apology accepted.

[Red White and Blue 81]

Looks like the “drain the swamp” party doesn’t GAF about corruption anymore.  

[The Real timschochet 5,931]

15 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You might get that from @Fnord; you won’t from me. The Hunter Biden story was crap; they investigated for months and Joe Biden was blameless. Whatever Hunter did Joe was not involved, and all that stuff about Joe taking money from Ukraine or China or whoever was BS. 
 

THIS Verizon-Starlink story may be corrupt. I don’t know yet. I strongly suspect Jared Kushner receiving 2 billion from the Saudis was corrupt. But calling these out, and dismissing the Hunter Biden non-story, isn’t hypocritical or a double standard. In each case I apply the exact same standard: examine the details.  

[jbycho 404]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

You might get that from @Fnord; you won’t from me. The Hunter Biden story was crap; they investigated for months and Joe Biden was blameless. Whatever Hunter did Joe was not involved, and all that stuff about Joe taking money from Ukraine or China or whoever was BS. 
 

THIS Verizon-Starlink story may be corrupt. I don’t know yet. I strongly suspect Jared Kushner receiving 2 billion from the Saudis was corrupt. But calling these out, and dismissing the Hunter Biden non-story, isn’t hypocritical or a double standard. In each case I apply the exact same standard: examine the details.  

[Ron_Artest 857]

 

Elon Musk’s satellite business Starlink may not have officially taken over Verizon’s $2.4 billion contract with the Federal Aviation Administration yet to upgrade the systems it uses to manage America’s airspace. However, on Friday, FAA officials ordered staff to begin finding tens of millions of dollars for a Starlink deal, according to a source with knowledge of the FAA and two people briefed on the situation.

The sources note that these internal directives have mostly, if not entirely, been delivered verbally — which they say is unusual for a matter like this. The source with knowledge of the FAA tells Rolling Stone that it appears as though “someone does not want a paper trail.”

It's not happening 

[Maximum Overkill 1,612]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Elon Musk’s satellite business Starlink may not have officially taken over Verizon’s $2.4 billion contract with the Federal Aviation Administration yet to upgrade the systems it uses to manage America’s airspace.

Amazing News!  

Starlink is the World leader in communication, it's about time Starlink is implemented into our daily lives. The old technology is outdated. 

Elon = WINNING  

[Tebok 138]

He puts on a helluva fireworks show.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/spacex-starship-mega-rocket-test-flight/3786022/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DFWBrand&fbclid=IwY2xjawI3OPpleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTXqBtC4ABwO9CqV8Ukb1ZaMmheSG3NN4aTs61wqQnkKY3se5MQG_YDFyw_aem_QxgGXR7GnHhFCyuRfJTZWw

[Ron_Artest 857]

21 minutes ago, Tebok said:

He puts on a helluva fireworks show.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/spacex-starship-mega-rocket-test-flight/3786022/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DFWBrand&fbclid=IwY2xjawI3OPpleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTXqBtC4ABwO9CqV8Ukb1ZaMmheSG3NN4aTs61wqQnkKY3se5MQG_YDFyw_aem_QxgGXR7GnHhFCyuRfJTZWw

Metaphor of what he's doing to America 

[Tebok 138]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Metaphor of what he's doing to America 

More like explosive splatter into a toilet.

[Ron_Artest 857]

4 minutes ago, Tebok said:

More like explosive splatter into a toilet.

Billions in fireworks.  Might want to cut that contract.

[Tebok 138]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Billions in fireworks.  Might want to cut that contract.

Nah, cuts to protecting our health, air travel, old people in long-term care, environment, parks, the spread of potential pandemics, democracy and millions of starving people worldwide is totally worth it to divert funds to more Space X rocket blowups.

Woo!

[jbycho 404]

11 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Nah, cuts to protecting our health, air travel, old people in long-term care, environment, parks, the spread of potential pandemics, democracy and millions of starving people worldwide is totally worth it to divert funds to more Space X rocket blowups.

Woo!

Ok Rusty..

[jonmx 2,368]

17 hours ago, Tebok said:

Nah, cuts to protecting our health, air travel, old people in long-term care, environment, parks, the spread of potential pandemics, democracy and millions of starving people worldwide is totally worth it to divert funds to more Space X rocket blowups.

Woo!

More like cutting billions to Soros, Clintons, the Taliban, Gates and left-wing activists.  The vast vast vast majority of money goes towards fraudulant activities.  The only healthcare USAID cares about is funding abortions and trans surgery.  They spend billions on propaganda campaigns around the world to select corrupt leaders.  They start wars and regime changes.   Less than 1 percent goes for feeding people or providing legit health care.   Their #1 goal is population reduction. The last thing anyone of those bastards want to do is save lives.