jbycho 413 Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: If you want to lecture about govt fraud, maybe choose a thread that doesn't start with the claim that the govt gave Chelsea Clinton $84M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 13 12 hours ago, KSB2424 said: I've been posting on this here forearm for 20 years and the one thing Dems, Repubs, Libertarian or Green seem to of all agreed upon was that corruption, extreme waste, fraud, etc. was bad for business. Not only that but all of the Geeks over the years argued about "social" polices but most were for balanced budgets and fiscal responsibility. Now, finally in 2025 there is a deep dive in government waste and fraud and some of you are losing your minds, clutching pearls and throwing hissy fits. This is what we needed and at one point in your life (pre Orange Man Bad) you wanted too. But you are blinded by the orange light. Government is bloated, its been bloated for decades and this correction is overdue. Yes, there will be collateral damage but ripping off band aids to expose bacteria does take some good skin and hairs with it. Still needs to be done to get rid of the infection before it continues to spread. This is a glorious time and well overdue. If you're stupid enough to think this is all about eliminating waste fraud and abuse then I feel sorry for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,444 Posted February 13 14 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: Maybe choose a thread that actually lists actual govt fraud. You mean like when a VP openly admits to a quid quo pro (which was proven to have happened), on national tv (which gets ignored), using government money to protect his son? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: You mean like when a VP openly admits to a quid quo pro (which was proven to have happened), on national tv (which gets ignored), using government money to protect his son? link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,310 Posted February 13 22 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: link? You still didn't show us how gas prices have gone up because of Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: You still didn't show us how gas prices have gone up because of Trump. https://www.newsweek.com/gas-prices-soaring-trump-2029770 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,310 Posted February 13 Just now, TrailGuy said: https://www.newsweek.com/gas-prices-soaring-trump-2029770 The article literally says prices are still lower than last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 13 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: The article literally says prices are still lower than last year. They're also lower than 2022. They're going up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,310 Posted February 13 Just now, TrailGuy said: They're also lower than 2022. They're going up. I haven't seen any changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I haven't seen any changes. During Trumps first term we saw gas prices rise for 2 years. First month we're seeing the same. Stay tuned. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?f=m&n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,310 Posted February 13 Just now, TrailGuy said: During Trumps first term we saw gas prices rise for 2 years. First month we're seeing the same. Stay tuned. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?f=m&n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg Same thing with Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,691 Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: During Trumps first term we saw gas prices rise for 2 years. First month we're seeing the same. Stay tuned. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?f=m&n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg Biden put pipeline workers out of work and told them to go "learn code". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,444 Posted February 13 8 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Biden put pipeline workers out of work and told them to go "learn code". I believe that was coal miners he said that to. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,932 Posted February 13 God damn @Mike Honcho throwing some undefended haymakers up in here. Doing the Lord's work. Nice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,691 Posted February 13 28 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I believe that was coal miners he said that to. Ah yes. I think I'm just mixing up all the people who lost career jobs under biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,444 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Fnord said: God damn @Mike Honcho throwing some undefended haymakers up in here. Doing the Lord's work. Nice. I don't trust the original source that the OP provided. Based on the content of that account, it looks like it's a Democrat just trying to stoke the flames of conservatives to do exactly what the OP did. I have NO DOUBT that the Clinton's got money from USAID that ended up being used for personal use. Willing to bet it's 7 figures. I don't think however Chelsea got $84M. The person whom you are championing, @Mike Honcho is doing exactly what the intent of that initial tweet was. He's saying you're an idiot for believing Chelsea got $84M and then using that as motivation to poo poo anything involving Democrats being corrupt or fraudulent. Go check out the second post of this very page. I gave an example of government fraud/corruption. I know those on your side of the aisle will either dismiss it, excuse it... or be short, and say "Well, he was wrong and shouldn't have done that". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,932 Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I don't trust the original source that the OP provided. Based on the content of that account, it looks like it's a Democrat just trying to stoke the flames of conservatives to do exactly what the OP did. I have NO DOUBT that the Clinton's got money from USAID that ended up being used for personal use. Willing to bet it's 7 figures. I don't think however Chelsea got $84M. The person whom you are championing, @Mike Honcho is doing exactly what the intent of that initial tweet was. He's saying you're an idiot for believing Chelsea got $84M and then using that as motivation to poo poo anything involving Democrats being corrupt or fraudulent. Go check out the second post of this very page. I gave an example of government fraud/corruption. I know those on your side of the aisle will either dismiss it, excuse it... or be short, and say "Well, he was wrong and shouldn't have done that". We will disagree about @Mike Honcho's motivations here. As for your post, you're going to have to show me some rock solid sourcing before I believe what you're trying to spin there. The typical "evidence" I've seen to support those claims did nothing to persuade me they were true. Whatta ya got? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,948 Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I don't trust the original source that the OP provided. Based on the content of that account, it looks like it's a Democrat just trying to stoke the flames of conservatives to do exactly what the OP did. I have NO DOUBT that the Clinton's got money from USAID that ended up being used for personal use. Willing to bet it's 7 figures. I don't think however Chelsea got $84M. The person whom you are championing, @Mike Honcho is doing exactly what the intent of that initial tweet was. He's saying you're an idiot for believing Chelsea got $84M and then using that as motivation to poo poo anything involving Democrats being corrupt or fraudulent. Go check out the second post of this very page. I gave an example of government fraud/corruption. I know those on your side of the aisle will either dismiss it, excuse it... or be short, and say "Well, he was wrong and shouldn't have done that". I didn't do or say anything like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,444 Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Fnord said: We will disagree about @Mike Honcho's motivations here. As for your post, you're going to have to show me some rock solid sourcing before I believe what you're trying to spin there. The typical "evidence" I've seen to support those claims did nothing to persuade me they were true. Whatta ya got? The Democrats have billions of dollars going to "fund" left wing ideologies abroad. We know this, do we not? All of that money is solely for the purpose to launder it back into the Democrat coffers to pay back for their financial and verbal support. The Clinton's, Obama, Biden, Harris, all of them... all got money to use to pay those people back. Trump spent 4 years raising money for this past election, even used his OWN money, and got what... $400M? Harris ran for 4 month's and got $1.5B? You think the people donating that kind of money were doing it because they actually thought that piece of trash was a good presidential candidate? Of course they didn't, but they did know they were getting the money back. Programs like USAID are just one of the sources. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,444 Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I didn't do or say anything like that. Of course you didn't... I'm just smart enough to know that's what you'll do. I was born on a day... but it wasn't yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,932 Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: The Democrats have billions of dollars going to "fund" left wing ideologies abroad. We know this, do we not? All of that money is solely for the purpose to launder it back into the Democrat coffers to pay back for their financial and verbal support. The Clinton's, Obama, Biden, Harris, all of them... all got money to use to pay those people back. Trump spent 4 years raising money for this past election, even used his OWN money, and got what... $400M? Harris ran for 4 month's and got $1.5B? You think the people donating that kind of money were doing it because they actually thought that piece of trash was a good presidential candidate? Of course they didn't, but they did know they were getting the money back. Programs like USAID are just one of the sources. That is not rock solid sourcing, or even sourcing at all. Near as I can tell, these are simply your beliefs, not fact. If it can (legally) be shown that any of the above is factual, then by all means prosecute everyone involved. I am open minded, so IF you have good sourcing, share it. Until then, you're just regurgitating right wing fever dreams. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 13 17 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: The Democrats have billions of dollars going to "fund" left wing ideologies abroad. We know this, do we not? All of that money is solely for the purpose to launder it back into the Democrat coffers to pay back for their financial and verbal support. The Clinton's, Obama, Biden, Harris, all of them... all got money to use to pay those people back. Trump spent 4 years raising money for this past election, even used his OWN money, and got what... $400M? Harris ran for 4 month's and got $1.5B? You think the people donating that kind of money were doing it because they actually thought that piece of trash was a good presidential candidate? Of course they didn't, but they did know they were getting the money back. Programs like USAID are just one of the sources. Is this fan fiction? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,654 Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Is this fan fiction? Much more believable than you being a super successful CFO and bodybuilder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 259 Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Much more believable than you being a super successful CFO and bodybuilder. He claims to be a bodybuilder? I thought he just jacked off to bodybuilders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,654 Posted February 13 1 minute ago, CaptainObvious1 said: He claims to be a bodybuilder? I thought he just jacked off to bodybuilders. One of his aliases did. He’s sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,948 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: Of course you didn't... I'm just smart enough to know that's what you'll do. I was born on a day... but it wasn't yesterday. 1 hour ago, TrailGuy said: Is this fan fiction? Apparently, he's writing Mike Honcho fan fiction too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyFife 28 Posted February 15 Just curious. Has anyone ever received a request or known of anyone that has received a request to donate to the Clinton Foundation? Anyone aware of the foundation calling or advertising for donations? Anyone ever seen a volunteer taking up donations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites