New team for Mr Rodgers.

[weepaws 3,144]

I would disagree, I think Rodgers had the weapons, and more so when they picked up Adams, Purdy was on the short end of weapons last season, cmc played four games, Aiyuk played seven.   

I would rather have Purdy, over a semi retired nut like Rodgers.   

[Ray_T 738]

1 hour ago, weepaws said:

I would disagree, I think Rodgers had the weapons, and more so when they picked up Adams, Purdy was on the short end of weapons last season, cmc played four games, Aiyuk played seven.   

I would rather have Purdy, over a semi retired nut like Rodgers.   

for sure.  and given the age of the players. I dont see it happening.      but I can see why some would think its a good idea.   If I were the GM in San Fran, this is not a move I'd make.   though we also dont know how much money Purdy is asking for.   if the ask is for top 3 or top 5 money I'm not sure he should get it. 

I suspect the Rodgers rumour is being leaked in San fran as a negotiating tactic to make the Purdy camp feel like they have alternatives.

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

3 hours ago, weepaws said:

I would rather have Purdy, over a semi retired nut like Rodgers

The Niners agree 

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

18 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

The Niners agree 

But would you have a generic QB making $40M AAV or more money to upgrade the team and a generic QB making $2M AAV?

[weepaws 3,144]

I would rather have Purdy over a semi retired unhappy soul Rodgers.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

But would you have a generic QB making $40M AAV or more money to upgrade the team and a generic QB making $2M AAV?

A 41 year old washed up Aaron Rodgers who hasn't won squat in forever or a young Brock Purdy who's already taken them to a Championship game and a Superbowl?? 

That's not a tough question 

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

A 41 year old washed up Aaron Rodgers who hasn't won squat in forever or a young Brock Purdy who's already taken them to a Championship game and a Superbowl?? 

That's not a tough question 

I agree, I don't think it's tough either, it's just a matter of perspective.  If you think Purdy is worth a long term deal worth $40M AAV, or more, then you tie your future to Purdy.  If you don't, then trading him moving on and looking at a cheaper/short term option is the way to go.  Build the supporting cast with the savings.  It's up to Lynch and the Niners to decide.  Me, I'd take the former.  I'd rather have the pick(s), and the money.  I don't think Purdy makes the team better.  Purdy at $1M allows the Niners to spend a boat load of money to keep their elite defense in tact.  Paying him $40M (or more), forces personnel decisions that can make the overall team worse.  Of course, this really depends on how much money Rodgers wants/willing to take.  If he wants $30M, then I just draft a QB, tag Purdy next year and trade him.  If Rodgers will take 2 for $30M, I'll trade Purdy now and develop my QB with Rodgers at the helm and save about $20M or more.

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I agree, I don't think it's tough either, it's just a matter of perspective.  If you think Purdy is worth a long term deal worth $40M AAV, or more, then you tie your future to Purdy.  If you don't, then trading him moving on and looking at a cheaper/short term option is the way to go.  Build the supporting cast with the savings.  It's up to Lynch and the Niners to decide.  Me, I'd take the former.  I'd rather have the pick(s), and the money.  I don't think Purdy makes the team better.  Purdy at $1M allows the Niners to spend a boat load of money to keep their elite defense in tact.  Paying him $40M (or more), forces personnel decisions that can make the overall team worse.  Of course, this really depends on how much money Rodgers wants/willing to take.  If he wants $30M, then I just draft a QB, tag Purdy next year and trade him.  If Rodgers will take 2 for $30M, I'll trade Purdy now and develop my QB with Rodgers at the helm and save about $20M or more.

The thought of them trading Purdy is insane. Then what, back to QB purgatory for the next 10 seasons? 

First off the Niners aren't a QB away from winning anything. But regardless, Purdy is better now and especially for the long term. They hit the motherload when they stumbled upon Purdy, otherwise they'd be riding Trey Lance still. 

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3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

The thought of them trading Purdy is insane. Then what, back to QB purgatory for the next 10 seasons? 

First off the Niners aren't a QB away from winning anything. But regardless, Purdy is better now and especially for the long term. They hit the motherload when they stumbled upon Purdy, otherwise they'd be riding Trey Lance still. 

So you're saying that the Niners aren't capable of finding a QB replacement... while touting the QB they found?

[Ray_T 738]

8 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

A 41 year old washed up Aaron Rodgers who hasn't won squat in forever or a young Brock Purdy who's already taken them to a Championship game and a Superbowl?? 

That's not a tough question 

yet the rumours persist.

I'm with you.  I dont think its a smart move but I find it entertaining what kind of garbage rumours some people will latch onto.

then again, if Purdy is asking for substantially more than he deserves that may point to the validity of the rumour.

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

10 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

So you're saying that the Niners aren't capable of finding a QB replacement... while touting the QB they found?

They have a QB, that's the whole point. 

Besides who's available that's better than Purdy? 

[DocNiner 67]

On 4/8/2025 at 12:39 PM, weepaws said:

I would disagree, I think Rodgers had the weapons, and more so when they picked up Adams, Purdy was on the short end of weapons last season, cmc played four games, Aiyuk played seven.   

I would rather have Purdy, over a semi retired nut like Rodgers.   

AMEN BROTHER. Purdy drew the short straw with having weapons. When's the last time Rodgers has been in a superbowl? Dude's getting love from past accomplishments which he deserves but this is a what have you done for me lately league. Rodgers may want to go the Ninets but pretty sure the 49ers dkn't want him unless it's in a backup role. Mr. Drama just needs to go on and sign with the Steelets so he can play in one more playoff game and lose. Steelers seem to be the only team at this point to want him. My 59ers don't want him OR need him.

 

 

[jrokh 607]

What are you guys even talking about. Last year Purdy finished 7th in QBR. The year before that he finished 1st. The year before that he would have been 5th if he played enough games. It was his first year and he played in 9 games. Bottom line he has played like a top 5 QB the last three years, He will likely get 50+ million AAV. SF isn't trading him to replace him with Rodgers. Silly...

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3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

They have a QB, that's the whole point. 

Besides who's available that's better than Purdy? 

LOL, the ole' "WhO eLsE tHeY gOnNa GeT", fear.  Unless you have a legit franchise QB (of which, there's only a real argument for 5 right now [Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, & Herbert]), you have a JAG.  Purdy is no better or worse than like the other 25 guys who don't stink (and the 5 previously mentioned).  Literally, right now there are MULTIPLE QB's who had pro bowl seasons with new teams after being cast off by 1 or more teams previously... Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, and Jared Goff all come to mind.  You don't need to be the one who draft's the player.  You just need to get them.  Just because they didn't fit the situation or scenario they were in previously, it doesn't mean they won't fit your situation.  IF Rodgers is healthy, IF Cousins is healthy (that's up to the Niners to figure out), both of them could do at worst, what Purdy can do with the talent that's on that team.  Cousins will probably be free... kinda like what Wilson was last year.  They'd have to trade for him, but let's be honest, it would probably only cost a 5th rounder at the most.  Of course, I'm sure you'll find a way to poo poo the 6th most accurate QB in NFL history.  Rodgers is available as well.

Both though, as I said previously, it's about cost.  I'd rather pay Cousins or Rodgers $10M-$15M for 1 year (or double for 2), than pay Purdy $40M+ for the next 4 years, because Purdy is a JAG.  Save the money and use it to fill other needs.  Or, I don't know if you've heard, but in 2 weeks there's this thing called the "NFL Draft".  What happens is, a bunch of college players are available for teams to pick and add to their team.  Interestingly enough, QB's are involved in this.  From what I've read, there's like TWELVE QB's who rank in the top 200 of available players.  The Niners can draft any one of them in their first 8 picks.

Let's keep in mind, before you poo poo that thought too... Brock Purdy was drafted with pick # 262.  Let's also keep in mind that there are plenty of other QB's who had multiple pro-bowl caliber seasons, who weren't drafted in the first round.  There are plenty who are in the Hall of Fame as well.

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8 minutes ago, jrokh said:

What are you guys even talking about. Last year Purdy finished 7th in QBR. The year before that he finished 1st. The year before that he would have been 5th if he played enough games. It was his first year and he played in 9 games. Bottom line he has played like a top 5 QB the last three years, He will likely get 50+ million AAV. SF isn't trading him to replace him with Rodgers. Silly...

Unless you have an elite QB, they're all overrated.  Spending money on them, like the $50M you're suggesting for Purdy, is just wasting money.  He's a product of the team, not the other way around.

[jrokh 607]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Unless you have an elite QB, they're all overrated.  Spending money on them, like the $50M you're suggesting for Purdy, is just wasting money.  He's a product of the team, not the other way around.

I'm not suggesting you pay him that, that's just what the going rate is for a guy who's played like a top 5 QB. Is it a product of the team? Perhaps, But Jimmy G or Kapernick didn't play as well as Purdy has. Does it really matter why your QB is playing great football?

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1 hour ago, jrokh said:

I'm not suggesting you pay him that, that's just what the going rate is for a guy who's played like a top 5 QB. Is it a product of the team? Perhaps, But Jimmy G or Kapernick didn't play as well as Purdy has. Does it really matter why your QB is playing great football?

I agree. The Niners would be making a grave mistake by not signing Purdy. He's one of the better young QBs in the league and is still only 25 years old. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

4 hours ago, jrokh said:

I'm not suggesting you pay him that, that's just what the going rate is for a guy who's played like a top 5 QB. Is it a product of the team? Perhaps, But Jimmy G or Kapernick didn't play as well as Purdy has. Does it really matter why your QB is playing great football?

To me, money is the issue.  I don't think that Purdy is worth $50M.  Apparently the Niners think so, well, that's their fault and it will hurt them in the long run if he signs.  Still, it seems like Purdy's agent (at least), seems to think Purdy is worth $60M.  IF other teams think he is worth that, then I'm sure there'll be teams lined up to give him that money and pony up multiple picks.

Kapernick was a one-trick pony that teams figured out.  I think players like him... Trey Lance and RG3 are guys who people are buying the hype and getting excited by talent and not seeing the actual player.  Jimmy G actually played very well in San Fran, he got to a Super Bowl and NFCCG with less talent on his offense than Purdy did.  Deebo was a rookie and their leading receiver with 57 catches and 800 yards. Their best RB was Raheem Mostert with less than 800 yards.  Purdy had 1400 yard McCaffrey, Deebo was his WR2 and his WR1 (Aiyuk), had 1300 yards.  That offense was light years more talented.

Yes, it absolutely does matter why your QB is playing great football.  If your QB is playing great because of the team around him, that means you're always going to need a great team around him to get results.  THAT kind of QB, you don't pay a lot of money to, because you need to invest it in his supporting cast.  If your QB is playing great because he's great, then you invest money in him because when things are optimal, he can still help you win.

[Ray_T 738]

2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

To me, money is the issue.  I don't think that Purdy is worth $50M.  Apparently the Niners think so, well, that's their fault and it will hurt them in the long run if he signs.  Still, it seems like Purdy's agent (at least), seems to think Purdy is worth $60M.  IF other teams think he is worth that, then I'm sure there'll be teams lined up to give him that money and pony up multiple picks.

Kapernick was a one-trick pony that teams figured out.  I think players like him... Trey Lance and RG3 are guys who people are buying the hype and getting excited by talent and not seeing the actual player.  Jimmy G actually played very well in San Fran, he got to a Super Bowl and NFCCG with less talent on his offense than Purdy did.  Deebo was a rookie and their leading receiver with 57 catches and 800 yards. Their best RB was Raheem Mostert with less than 800 yards.  Purdy had 1400 yard McCaffrey, Deebo was his WR2 and his WR1 (Aiyuk), had 1300 yards.  That offense was light years more talented.

Yes, it absolutely does matter why your QB is playing great football.  If your QB is playing great because of the team around him, that means you're always going to need a great team around him to get results.  THAT kind of QB, you don't pay a lot of money to, because you need to invest it in his supporting cast.  If your QB is playing great because he's great, then you invest money in him because when things are optimal, he can still help you win.

I think the issue is that Purdy is a 'system QB'   to be frank, there is Nothing wrong with that so long as you stay in the same system.

Purdy's best value as a player is where he is.

He might make more if he goes to another team, but his stats wont be what they were in San Fran.   I dont think anyone here would be able to convince me otherwise.

At the same time, Purdy is ideally suited to the system they run in San Fran.    I dont think San Fran finds someone who is better (at least noone they have the ability to acquire)

so I'd say this:   Both sides NEED each other.   Purdy can get the money elsewhere, but he wont get another top contract afterwards because his numbers drop off when he leaves San Fran.   Either way, most players want to play where they can be the best version of themselves.   so both sides need to figure this out.

[weepaws 3,144]

I think Purdy would have very good value with the Niners and the Steelers.  Imo. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

14 hours ago, Ray_T said:

I think the issue is that Purdy is a 'system QB'   to be frank, there is Nothing wrong with that so long as you stay in the same system.

Purdy's best value as a player is where he is.

He might make more if he goes to another team, but his stats wont be what they were in San Fran.   I dont think anyone here would be able to convince me otherwise.

At the same time, Purdy is ideally suited to the system they run in San Fran.    I dont think San Fran finds someone who is better (at least noone they have the ability to acquire)

so I'd say this:   Both sides NEED each other.   Purdy can get the money elsewhere, but he wont get another top contract afterwards because his numbers drop off when he leaves San Fran.   Either way, most players want to play where they can be the best version of themselves.   so both sides need to figure this out.

I agree with a lot of this.  Almost every QB is a system QB.  Lamar Jackson, for instance, probably doesn't work out well in Tampa under Arians.  With that being said, I think it should be easier for teams to find a new QB because they're the ones who know their system and know what traits to look for when it comes to FA's and the draft.  Now, the timing may not work, and you need to do what you need to do.  In that situation, I'm making sure the contract I'm giving out is one I can move on from if I find someone I like.

For example, I think Atlanta was smart in their approach to last off-season and is close to what teams should do.  Evaluate your team and see what direction you need to go in at QB.  They felt they were a QB away from contending (that part was foolish and a separate topic in of it's own), so they went out and signed a QB to a short term deal that they could walk away from after 2 years.  I would have structured it differently, but again, a topic for another discussion.  But, they then used a top 10 pick to draft a guy they liked as a possible franchise QB.  Now, whether they made the right decision or not will play out, but the approach is what was correct.  Don't lock yourself in to a long term deal with a lot of money for a guy who isn't special.

On topic, Purdy isn't special.  If they want to sign him to a $50M AAV deal, fine, if they can get out of it in 2 years if necessary, with little recourse.  I don't follow college football, but I'm willing to bet there's multiple QB's in this draft that are competent.  I'm willing to bet more than one of them will be drafted after the Niners 1st round pick.  Let's say that guy is Jackson Dart.  Simple, trade Purdy for a couple of picks... maybe a 1st and 3rd (if he's that good, they'll get that for him).  Heck, take #1 from Tennessee.  Anyway, draft Dart at their pick and use the picks from the trade to replace Deebo, bolster the OLine, or add another WR (as mentioned earlier... Aiyuk won't be healthy this year), or another RB because we know McCaffrey's going to get hurt again.  The Niners are probably an 8 or 9 win team this year, use the year to develop a QB and spend money to build around him.  In 4 years, rinse and repeat.

[Ray_T 738]

I agree.  hes not special.   he is good enough provided the team around him is good.

basically hes Dak Prescott. (though maybe a little better playoff performer than Dak has been so far)

or possibly Kirk Cousins.   very good at his best but not elite.   maybe thats a better comparison.  especially considering playing style

that said,  Dak also didnt have as good a team around him as Purdy did and Dallas for a few years was playing in the worst division in football, and looked better than they actually were.

I fully acknowledge, Purdy still has room to improve.  he is young enough.    case in point would be Baker Mayfield.   hes been a bit of a late bloomer at QB and honestly he showed some moxie last year that I never truly thought he had.   he lost his #1 WR and #2 WR and still was able to perform at a decent level without them.    when I see something like that I think I actually place more value on him than I do on Purdy because of what he was able to do in the wake of adversity (in this case injuries to key members of the offense)

granted Baker is still not well regarded because of his past performance, but the last 2 years have really opened my eyes with respect to how I evaluate the guy.

he broke out but I attributed that (at least in part) to having top WR to throw the ball to.   but when those guys got hurt I really thought he'd be a writeoff, but he still performed reasonably.   Thats more than I can say about Brock Purdy.

but I agree, they should sign him if they can.  key is to structure that contract with less guaranteed money so they can get out of that contract if he crashes and burns.

I suppose the franchise tag is an option if they are not sold on him.  buy another year to evaluate him. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

On 4/9/2025 at 9:27 PM, Ray_T said:

yet the rumours persist.

From who?

The Niners front office says there's nothing to the rumors and that they are working on a Brock Purdy extension. They couldn't be more clear. 

[Ray_T 738]

7 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

From who?

The Niners front office says there's nothing to the rumors and that they are working on a Brock Purdy extension. They couldn't be more clear. 

I think its mostly media speculation to be honest.  guys posting crazy rumours to get clicks online.    

but if people click on those they will continue to publish more related stories.    The people who post these crazy rumours really dont care how true they are.   They only care that you and I click on the stupid article.

obviously enough people care about the story otherwise the articles would go away for lack of clicks.

I'm not in any way saying the story is likely to happen.   I'd say at best its a long shot.   when you see an article like this with no named sources I consider the article to be (largely) a made up rumour.

I dont deny, at times where there is smoke there is fire.   But I'm skeptical that  this story is likely to happen.

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

Rodgers to New Orleans is a possibility now. Not the Niners 

[Ray_T 738]

2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Rodgers to New Orleans is a possibility now. Not the Niners 

Do the Saints have the cap space.  Last I saw they were in cap jail and at the time they signed Carr I was surprised they found the cash to THAT.  Not sure how they'd be able to find cash to pay Rodgers now.

granted lots of things can change in a year or two so maybe I'm out to lunch on this but this feels like an unlikely destination. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

5 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

Do the Saints have the cap space.  Last I saw they were in cap jail and at the time they signed Carr I was surprised they found the cash to THAT.  Not sure how they'd be able to find cash to pay Rodgers now.

granted lots of things can change in a year or two so maybe I'm out to lunch on this but this feels like an unlikely destination. 

I don't think the Saints could do it financially, not without trading Carr but that ain't happening. If I were the Saints I'd just roll with Rattler, hope he progresses, if not at least you'll have a high 2026  pick which is a much better QB draft. 

[weepaws 3,144]

Rodgers talk has became boring, just pick a team already.  Vikings would be his best move.  

[Ray_T 738]

18 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Rodgers talk has became boring, just pick a team already.  Vikings would be his best move.  

I can see why he doesnt want to sign in Pittsburgh.   they run a pretty conservative offense there.  My guess is he is not fond of playing that way.

but hes at a point where he does not have a lot of options left unless he wants to leave some money on the table.

[weepaws 3,144]

I think he doesn’t want to play, that’s why he hasn’t yet sign with any team, it’s became a circus.  

[Ray_T 738]

9 minutes ago, weepaws said:

I think he doesn’t want to play, that’s why he hasn’t yet sign with any team, it’s became a circus.  

I think that he still thinks hes good enough that he can pick and choose where he goes.

this is all about ego

[weepaws 3,144]

12 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

I think that he still thinks hes good enough that he can pick and choose where he goes.

this is all about ego

Exactly, that’s why he’s having a tough time picking , what I think he really wants to do is Retire.  

[Ray_T 738]

1 hour ago, weepaws said:

Exactly, that’s why he’s having a tough time picking , what I think he really wants to do is Retire.  

speculation.   mine too.

I think that Rodgers thinks a better offer will come as hes not fully happy playing in Pittsburgh.

you think he really wants to retire.

while the end result may end up being the same,  the bottom line is how this plays out may be difficult to predict.

in some respects it feels like Rodgers doesnt want to sign in a city where he would be expected to be a mentor to his eventual replacement.    but it could just simply be that he doesnt love Pittsburgh and doesnt want to be a game manager.

[weepaws 3,144]

Yeah I think retirement is on the menu for Rodgers, I also think he wants to continue is playing career, that’s why it’s taking so dang long, why to long, it’s becoming boring.  

Vikings should be his pick.  

[Ray_T 738]

13 hours ago, weepaws said:

Yeah I think retirement is on the menu for Rodgers, I also think he wants to continue is playing career, that’s why it’s taking so dang long, why to long, it’s becoming boring.  

Vikings should be his pick.  

well, he is running out of time and choices.

he needs to decide soon.    Im a bit surprised the vikings are in this.  dont they have a young QB they like a lot?

[jrokh 607]

4 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

well, he is running out of time and choices.

he needs to decide soon.    Im a bit surprised the vikings are in this.  dont they have a young QB they like a lot?

There is no evidence the Vikings are in on him. The speculation is merely that Rodgers preference would be with Minnesota. Pretty sure they are set on starting JJ McCarthy.

[weepaws 3,144]

8 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

well, he is running out of time and choices.

he needs to decide soon.    Im a bit surprised the vikings are in this.  dont they have a young QB they like a lot?

I’m not sure if the Vikings are interested, but, that would be a good spot for Rodgers.  I think the Steelers would be next up.  

[Ray_T 738]

13 minutes ago, jrokh said:

There is no evidence the Vikings are in on him. The speculation is merely that Rodgers preference would be with Minnesota. Pretty sure they are set on starting JJ McCarthy.

no I meant on the roster Isnt JJ McCarthy a first round pick?

[JagFan 147]

I just hope Hard Knocks lands wherever he lands this year.  I want to watch him strut around like a peacock again before imploding!  Must see TV with Mr Rodgers.  Does the NFL have an IR designation for a torn labrum?  Asking for a friend.

[gcmmidwest 149]

Good write up ray t you could be a columnist in your local newspaper or something you have a gift