Hardcore troubadour 14,579 Posted Friday at 05:36 PM 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Oh I know. Folks like Squissy keep lying for monster. You have to keep in mind that not long ago Squishy, Real Tim and other leftist nut jobs were making excuses for Hamas. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,574 Posted Friday at 06:57 PM Great tune https://x.com/theunitedspot__/status/1892762088973750437?s=46&t=qE_mxMxkv7rJw3kUGURqVg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,865 Posted Friday at 06:57 PM 1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Trump has assembled the 1961 Yankees of politics with this cabinet. Much closer to the 1919 White Sox IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,067 Posted Friday at 07:03 PM 5 minutes ago, Fnord said: Much closer to the 1919 White Sox IMO. OK, that was pretty good..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,865 Posted Friday at 07:10 PM 1 hour ago, RLLD said: The FBI improperly obtained a FISA warrant to surveil Carter Page, relying heavily on the Steele dossier, which was a political misinformation campaign originating from the Clinton campaign. The used political bias in their investigations: From the bogus Russia investigation to the targeting of parents and people in churches....... The FBI’s search of his Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022, was entirely political and part of the overall "op" across the board to denigrate him at every possible turn to influence the election. Lets start with those, the list is if course much longer Yes, let's. Let's also talk about the majority of FBI personnel being conservative politically, by all means. Let's talk about how regardless of which party sits in the WH they spend too much time and energy investigating Muslims, activists, journalists, civil rights groups, and politicians and not enough on counter-terrorism, their "primary" focus. How they consider the local mosque to be more dangerous than a right wing militia. How they blew off flagrant warning signs of 9/11 and the Boston marathon bombing. The blatant abuses of the FISA system. And then let's all pretend that Trump will make things "better." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,181 Posted Friday at 07:19 PM 2 hours ago, HB Localboy said: I have the pictures saved, but I don't know how to post them on this message board. Seriously? Upload to imgbb and copy paste the link I have no idea how some people make it through life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,341 Posted Friday at 07:21 PM Is he gonna do it or all talk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,067 Posted Friday at 07:21 PM 9 minutes ago, Fnord said: Yes, let's. Let's also talk about the majority of FBI personnel being conservative politically, by all means. Let's talk about how regardless of which party sits in the WH they spend too much time and energy investigating Muslims, activists, journalists, civil rights groups, and politicians and not enough on counter-terrorism, their "primary" focus. How they consider the local mosque to be more dangerous than a right wing militia. How they blew off flagrant warning signs of 9/11 and the Boston marathon bombing. The blatant abuses of the FISA system. And then let's all pretend that Trump will make things "better." I do not care if the FBI is "conservative" or anything else. They violated the sanctity of their role. I am familiar with this move to suggest that "well, they are conservative you cannot criticize them"....but I wont buy it. The people leading the FBI need to go, whether they voted for Trump.....are "conservative"..... or any other irrelevant factor. By their behaviors in executing their role, they have lost the right to remain employed there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,579 Posted Friday at 07:23 PM 12 minutes ago, Fnord said: Yes, let's. Let's also talk about the majority of FBI personnel being conservative politically, by all means. Let's talk about how regardless of which party sits in the WH they spend too much time and energy investigating Muslims, activists, journalists, civil rights groups, and politicians and not enough on counter-terrorism, their "primary" focus. How they consider the local mosque to be more dangerous than a right wing militia. How they blew off flagrant warning signs of 9/11 and the Boston marathon bombing. The blatant abuses of the FISA system. And then let's all pretend that Trump will make things "better." This guy thinks mosques get harassed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HB Localboy 34 Posted Friday at 07:29 PM 9 minutes ago, Horseman said: Seriously? Upload to imgbb and copy paste the link I have no idea how some people make it through life. https://ibb.co/Z6j0gxn3 I want the picture to show up without having to click the link, you dimwitted dunce! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,093 Posted Friday at 09:49 PM 3 hours ago, RLLD said: The FBI improperly obtained a FISA warrant to surveil Carter Page, relying heavily on the Steele dossier, which was a political misinformation campaign originating from the Clinton campaign. A little look up and recalling here, wasn't the FISA warrant originally valid, and then eventually the fbi guy continued it by implying Page wasn't a CIA asset. I think during this time he was an advisor for Trump campaign and then wasn't. Not sure of the timing there. At some point thereafter, Trump claimed he didn't know him, but I believe that was proven a lie(?). Also around this time Manafort was busted for something related to Russian contacts. While, yes, what the fbi guy did was illegal, I wouldn't go as far as you about it being done so that the Clinton could spy Trump. I also think you using originated isn't quite accurate. Overall, I think Trump's relationship with Russia is suspect. Again, while an illegal act, I don't know if it means senior leadership was involved in abuses. If abuses are identified, yes, walk them out. The used political bias in their investigations: From the bogus Russia investigation to the targeting of parents and people in churches....... I don't think the Russia investigation was bogus. Though I believe that you could cite things that were. The FBI’s search of his Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022, was entirely political and part of the overall "op" across the board to denigrate him at every possible turn to influence the election. Maybe it was used politically, but I think he brought this on himself. From what I recall, the National Archives requested the docs multiple times, and he continually did not respond, or return them anyway. Again, recalling, he made many claims that he was allowed to keep them, I think not true. His lawyers said he has 2 years to sparse out personal info, not true apparently. I don't understand why he would not give these back after multiple requests. I can't see a way this is for some good cause. At the time Pence and Biden had documents as well. I believe they notified the Archives and returned them. Why are you ok with Trump keeping these despite these requests? Lets start with those, the list is if course much longer again, not confrontationally, I think these are fairly weak. I think it is more likely that anyone that is walked out will be for political revenge of some kind. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,842 Posted Friday at 09:54 PM Kash needs to start cleaning house. Make DC look like Vlad the Impaler decorated it. https://rumble.com/v6l7zbg-panda-eyes.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,067 Posted Friday at 10:10 PM 14 minutes ago, Herbivore said: again, not confrontationally, I think these are fairly weak. I think it is more likely that anyone that is walked out will be for political revenge of some kind. I appreciate the thoughtful response. I look at the FISA situation and I see it as a symptom of a wider problem when taken in context with the other bad actions. We now know that the Steele dossier was funding by the Clinton campaign through Fusion GPS, so when we look back at how Clinton portrayed the situation, and that she knew full well it was her who made it up....then we look at the actions of the FBI, I see them as either inept or complicit. If this were isolated, and we did not have the other malfeasance I might be willing to consider it just ineptitude. But I dont feel that way today. When you look at it all next to each other, the overcharging, the stretching of legal precedent, and the more recent revelations, it becomes more and more easy to suggest that it was all done just to take Trump down. Had they not gone so far over the top with it all, I think it would be easier to defend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,055 Posted Friday at 10:12 PM 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: This guy thinks mosques get harassed. Slews of people chant "From the River to the Sea" and Biden's FBI didn't care, meanwhile they've got a half dozen agents assigned to investigating the grandma praying in front of an abortion clinic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,579 Posted Friday at 10:14 PM James Comey as head of the FBI ordered General Mike Flynn to be set up and bragged about it. Of course liberals were / are ok with it. How dare you say the FBI is slanted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,878 Posted Friday at 10:40 PM On 2/20/2025 at 3:23 PM, TrailGuy said: Breaking out his enemies list. America is finished. Patel's girlfriend is a SMOKE SHOW!!! GOOD LORD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,579 Posted Friday at 10:48 PM How come democrats aren’t celebrating that he’s the first POC to head the FBI? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 180 Posted Friday at 10:56 PM 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How come democrats aren’t celebrating that he’s the first POC to head the FBI? If he was black they would call him Uncle Tom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,093 Posted Friday at 11:11 PM 56 minutes ago, RLLD said: I appreciate the thoughtful response. I look at the FISA situation and I see it as a symptom of a wider problem when taken in context with the other bad actions. We now know that the Steele dossier was funding by the Clinton campaign through Fusion GPS, so when we look back at how Clinton portrayed the situation, and that she knew full well it was her who made it up....then we look at the actions of the FBI, I see them as either inept or complicit. If this were isolated, and we did not have the other malfeasance I might be willing to consider it just ineptitude. But I dont feel that way today. When you look at it all next to each other, the overcharging, the stretching of legal precedent, and the more recent revelations, it becomes more and more easy to suggest that it was all done just to take Trump down. Had they not gone so far over the top with it all, I think it would be easier to defend. Maybe it was all done to take Trump down, and they did overreach in some areas but not necessarily illegal activity, but I think Trump has been guilty of the acts he was charged with. That's why I think lawfare is a silly term. Would other people have been charged? I can certainly see how anyone would think no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 180 Posted Friday at 11:31 PM 17 minutes ago, Herbivore said: Maybe it was all done to take Trump down, and they did overreach in some areas but not necessarily illegal activity, but I think Trump has been guilty of the acts he was charged with. That's why I think lawfare is a silly term. Would other people have been charged? I can certainly see how anyone would think no. show me where another person in NY was charged with fraud for inflating property value to get a loan from a bank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,878 Posted Saturday at 12:42 AM 5 hours ago, Fnord said: Much closer to the 1919 White Sox IMO. Ask Adam Schiff about what happened to a young black boy at an LA hotel. Anthony Bourdain was a witness who unexpectedly died before testifying against Mr. Schiff. You’ll have to dig a little to find the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HB Localboy 34 Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM 1 hour ago, League Champion said: Ask Adam Schiff about what happened to a young black boy at an LA hotel. Anthony Bourdain was a witness who unexpectedly died before testifying against Mr. Schiff. You’ll have to dig a little to find the story. It was the Standard Hotel. Ed Buck was arrested two times for raping and drugging black males at the hotel. The last time the darkie died from the drug overdose and now Ed Buck is in prison for life. Adam and Ed Buck are best friends. Poor Anthony....another mysterious REDRUM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,357 Posted yesterday at 11:39 AM On 2/21/2025 at 2:10 PM, Fnord said: Yes, let's. Let's also talk about the majority of FBI personnel being conservative politically, by all means. Let's talk about how regardless of which party sits in the WH they spend too much time and energy investigating Muslims, activists, journalists, civil rights groups, and politicians and not enough on counter-terrorism, their "primary" focus. How they consider the local mosque to be more dangerous than a right wing militia. How they blew off flagrant warning signs of 9/11 and the Boston marathon bombing. The blatant abuses of the FISA system. And then let's all pretend that Trump will make things "better." There is not one recent case of an establishment or left-leaning journalust home being raided and arrested. There are dozens of journalists who expose establishment institutions and politicians homes being raided and arrested These bastards in the leadership of our intelligence agencies don't give a fuk about left or right social issues. The FBI/CIA only care about protecting the swamp in DC. The only purpose social issues has ever played is keeping the country divided. Trump has redefined politics and made the division between the people and the swamp. Why you continue to live in their constructed divisions and in turn bootlick for these disgusting corrupt power-hungry swamp creatures is beyond me. Don't you see the problem with peace-loving doves flipping sides and becoming warmongers? The people have been manipulated by our intelligence agencies for many decades. And you can not accept that because they have filled your brain with irrational hatred of everything Trump and Elon. It was not long ago when Bush and Cheney were considered satin but today they are darlings of the Democrats. The truth of the massively corrupt deep state is being exposed. Open your eyes and your brain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,093 Posted yesterday at 04:44 PM On 2/21/2025 at 6:31 PM, shadrap said: show me where another person in NY was charged with fraud for inflating property value to get a loan from a bank. meant to respond to this. I might be able to find something if I looked, but that is not really the point. It is illegal, and he did do it. I'm not pissed or think they need to throw the book at him, but he is not some victim of lawfare. He committed a crime and he is being held to some account for that. And then this is the last line of the post you responded to...Would other people have been charged? I can certainly see how anyone would think no. That line directly addresses your post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,067 Posted yesterday at 04:55 PM On 2/21/2025 at 6:31 PM, shadrap said: show me where another person in NY was charged with fraud for inflating property value to get a loan from a bank. There is none, ever, which is why the appeals court pointedly called this fact out. Her position which devalues the property to support her legal abuse was recently refuted by the property selling next to Trumps A reasonable person would look at all that transpired and easily see that you had this person abusing the law to influence a presidential election Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,093 Posted yesterday at 05:15 PM 12 minutes ago, RLLD said: There is none, ever, which is why the appeals court pointedly called this fact out. Her position which devalues the property to support her legal abuse was recently refuted by the property selling next to Trumps A reasonable person would look at all that transpired and easily see that you had this person abusing the law to influence a presidential election this in fla..the case was in ny. how are you saying these are aligned? How did you feel about the Hunter Biden conviction? Was that something people usually get charged with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,579 Posted yesterday at 05:32 PM 47 minutes ago, Herbivore said: meant to respond to this. I might be able to find something if I looked, but that is not really the point. It is illegal, and he did do it. I'm not pissed or think they need to throw the book at him, but he is not some victim of lawfare. He committed a crime and he is being held to some account for that. And then this is the last line of the post you responded to...Would other people have been charged? I can certainly see how anyone would think no. That line directly addresses your post. Yup. It’s illegal. So what could you use to determine if the property was over inflated, which is the whole basis of the charge? How do you figure the value? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,067 Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, Herbivore said: this in fla..the case was in ny. how are you saying these are aligned? How did you feel about the Hunter Biden conviction? Was that something people usually get charged with? Not sure I understand your question. The main thrust of their now known to be absolute horseh!t case included inane assertions like he over values places like Mara Lago among others....meanwhile, you have the empty property right next to it....on sale now for MORE than he listed his own....which is like a resort. The appeals court will overturn it of course, but they already knew that....it wasnt about the case....the law....or justice....it was about finding a way to hurt Trump in any way possible and impede his ability to be elected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,093 Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Not sure I understand your question. The main thrust of their now known to be absolute horseh!t case included inane assertions like he over values places like Mara Lago among others....meanwhile, you have the empty property right next to it....on sale now for MORE than he listed his own....which is like a resort. The appeals court will overturn it of course, but they already knew that....it wasnt about the case....the law....or justice....it was about finding a way to hurt Trump in any way possible and impede his ability to be elected. ok, yeah I do remember Mara Lago values being brought up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,579 Posted 20 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Herbivore said: ok, yeah I do remember Mara Lago values being brought up Huh? It was the collateral used to get the loan in question. “ brought up”. And yet here you are commenting on a case you haven’t a clue about. You shouldn’t just repeat things you hear. Check em out for yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 180 Posted 20 hours ago 5 hours ago, Herbivore said: meant to respond to this. I might be able to find something if I looked, but that is not really the point. It is illegal, and he did do it. I'm not pissed or think they need to throw the book at him, but he is not some victim of lawfare. He committed a crime and he is being held to some account for that. And then this is the last line of the post you responded to...Would other people have been charged? I can certainly see how anyone would think no. That line directly addresses your post. Save you some time, you won't find any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,669 Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Elon Musk's department letter to federal employees to respond by email with 5 bullet points indicating what they did the last week for work, and if they do not respond it will be considered their resignation. THE FBI has the nerve to tell people not to respond. Any links? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,224 Posted 14 hours ago 9 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Any links? No. Heard it today on Fox News. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,224 Posted 14 hours ago https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dod-tells-civilian-workforce-ignore-elon-musks-request-report-productivity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,224 Posted 14 hours ago Looks like FBI is just telling their FBI employees to pause on any response. Also telling employees to stand down was Kash Patel, who was confirmed by the Senate last week as the new director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). "FBI personnel may have received an email from OPM requesting information," Patel told employees, according to The Associated Press. "The FBI, through the Office of the Director, is in charge of all of our review processes, and will conduct reviews in accordance with FBI procedures. When and if further information is required, we will coordinate the responses. For now, please pause any responses." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,579 Posted 14 hours ago Nothing official yet, but word is Patel has fired numerous 7th floor FBI traitors. This really hits home. It’s so great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,357 Posted 13 hours ago On 2/21/2025 at 6:11 PM, Herbivore said: Maybe it was all done to take Trump down, and they did overreach in some areas but not necessarily illegal activity, but I think Trump has been guilty of the acts he was charged with. That's why I think lawfare is a silly term. Would other people have been charged? I can certainly see how anyone would think no. No one in past history nor ever in the future will be charged for a felony based on a check memo. No one ever in history will be fined $545,000,0000 based on a credible property valuation on a financial statement to a bank. Both cases were insanely contrived horse manure which have no precedent of any case ever brought anywhere in the US. Yet we have a system which somehow allows such nonsense purely because it was Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 371 Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Gepetto said: Elon Musk's department letter to federal employees to respond by email with 5 bullet points indicating what they did the last week for work, and if they do not respond it will be considered their resignation. THE FBI has the nerve to tell people not to respond. Oh no. Not accountability!! The horror!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,224 Posted 12 hours ago https://www.yahoo.com/news/government-agencies-conflicting-guidance-musk-170710552.html I now think Elon Musk is going about this all wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,865 Posted 1 hour ago On 2/23/2025 at 5:39 AM, jonmx said: There is not one recent case of an establishment or left-leaning journalust home being raided and arrested. There are dozens of journalists who expose establishment institutions and politicians homes being raided and arrested These bastards in the leadership of our intelligence agencies don't give a fuk about left or right social issues. The FBI/CIA only care about protecting the swamp in DC. The only purpose social issues has ever played is keeping the country divided. Trump has redefined politics and made the division between the people and the swamp. Why you continue to live in their constructed divisions and in turn bootlick for these disgusting corrupt power-hungry swamp creatures is beyond me. Don't you see the problem with peace-loving doves flipping sides and becoming warmongers? The people have been manipulated by our intelligence agencies for many decades. And you can not accept that because they have filled your brain with irrational hatred of everything Trump and Elon. It was not long ago when Bush and Cheney were considered satin but today they are darlings of the Democrats. The truth of the massively corrupt deep state is being exposed. Open your eyes and your brain. Yes, yes, we know. Trump has been anointed by God, saved from a bullet by God, and will lead us all into an age of peace and prosperity, destroying the foul underbelly of American decay and rot. He'll do this by -destroying the government's ability to respond to normal administrative duties (let's not even mention crises) -putting thousands of federal employees out of work, including those that are in charge of incredibly important services, like our nuclear arsenals -demolishing aid programs to the poorest Americans (and non-Americans), many of whom voted for him -making congress a group of slack-jawed NPC's that simply roll over to accommodate his whims and offer no resistance thus far -installing loyalists that are grossly underqualified for their jobs -removing all legal guardrails that might get in his way and setting up a looming Mexican standoff with SCOTUS -allowing the richest man in the world (who is not an American citizen and has highly dubious links to far right extremists all over the world, including alleged neo-nazi ties) to dismantle the government based on his own whims, assisted by a bunch of tech bros in their 20s that have literally NO idea what the consequences of their actions will be -massively cutting taxes to the richest Americans, who already take advantage of ridiculous amounts of tax shelters and tax avoidance I'll take a multitude of power hungry swamp creatures clamoring for a piece of the pie over a single man whose need for power, influence, and self-aggrandizement directly conflicts with the position he has obtained, wherein he decides entirely who gets pie based on their fealty to him. I may very well put too much trust in institutions that are meant to preserve and improve American society but have been co-opted by forces that are counter to that mission. But you have fully committed to a man with no honor, scruples, or sense of decency and morality and are claiming that HE ALONE can fix this by benevolently destroying it all while aligning himself with the world's dictators. Who's the dupe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites