Is Trump serious about his insane tariffs? Dow Jones teeters, waiting to find out.

[MDC 6,887]

35 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

https://x.com/josheakle/status/1897017855218196743?s=46&t=0YXe9oUqqYEnHOHU8BsZkQ
 

Fox News lady host responds to interview with auto dealer about tariffs, sounds like drunken fool

This hag thinks the goal of tariffs is to sell cars to India?

What a focking maroon.  

[thegeneral 2,742]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

This hag thinks the goal of tariffs is to sell cars to India?

What a focking maroon.  

Euros are dying to buy giant trucks that get 9 miles to the gallon and don’t fit in their garages!

[MDC 6,887]

Serious question: What is the stated purpose of Trump’s tariffs?

In general, I thought the idea was to boost US manufacturing and therefore jobs by making our products more cost competitive. 

 

[Ron_Artest 854]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Serious question: Shat is the stated purpose of Trump’s tariffs?

In general, I thought the idea was to boost US manufacturing and therefore jobs by making our products more cost competitive. 

 

If you listen to Trump the stated purpose is to stop other countries from ripping us off, but he doesn't know how tariffs work.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,636]

Trump Vodka was made in the Netherlands and Germany. He knows how tariffs work. 

[Ron_Artest 854]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump Vodka was made in the Netherlands and Germany. He knows how tariffs work. 

The Trump vodka that nobody bought so they discontinued it, correct?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,636]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

The Trump vodka that nobody bought so they discontinued it, correct?

You’re crazy man. All the cool people were drinking it. 

[Ron_Artest 854]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re crazy man. All the cool people were drinking it. 

Why did they stop?

[MDC 6,887]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

If you listen to Trump the stated purpose is to stop other countries from ripping us off, but he doesn't know how tariffs work.

I can’t make sense of it. So I figured one of the pro-Trump Geeks might know. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,636]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Why did they stop?

There was a hazing incident at Trump University where pledges were made to drink it. The brand was tarnished. 

[Mike Honcho 4,934]

 

13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is also false. I can’t speak for others but let me be clear about my own reaction: 

1. I sharply criticized Trump when he imposed tariffs last time around. I wrote it would be bad for the economy. I never wrote it would be a disaster because those tariffs, mostly on China, were limited. But I made clear it would be bad and it was.

2. I was very disappointed that Biden maintained the tariffs. I regard it as probably the worst decision of his Presidency, and said so at the time and many other times. It contributed heavily to our inflation, much more so IMO than his spending (which is what conservatives blame for the inflation.) 

3. Trump’s current tariffs are 10 times what he did before, and after April 2 if he keeps his pledge it will be far more than that, it will be the biggest tariffs in history. I believe that these new tariffs, which are unlike any in the past, will be catastrophic for our economy, and the world. I believe it will lead to a recession, possibly another Great Depression, possibly to new wars. I sincerely believe this. My only hope is that Trump is convinced to change his mind or back off quickly. 
 

So no this is a not a case of only complaining because it is Trump. Bernie Sanders is also, like Trump, a long time believer in protectionism. If he were President I would make the same warning. Tariffs are a leftist interference in the free market and the bigger they are the more destructive the result. 

And he doesn't want to do it on April 1st because he's superstitious and/or doesn't want people to think it's a joke cause it's April Fools Day.  

[Mike Honcho 4,934]

Also since the tariffs on Canada include lumber expect housing price increases.

Quote

 

In the meantime, prices are already going up, said Buddy Hughes, chairman of the National Association of Home Builders.

The NAHB’s chief economist Robert Dietz said he was hearing anecdotally from builders that the new tariffs could increase costs anywhere from $7,500 to $10,000 per home.

CNN Story

 

 

[The Real timschochet 5,926]

Worst jobs report since 2009: 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/06/economy/us-jobs-report-february-preview

[Hardcore troubadour 14,636]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Worst jobs report since 2009: 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/06/economy/us-jobs-report-february-preview

Yeah, that’s on Trump. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Worst jobs report since 2009: 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/06/economy/us-jobs-report-february-preview

Not good.   Are you blaming Trump's month and a half in office for it?

[Mike Honcho 4,934]

34 minutes ago, MDC said:

Serious question: Shat is the stated purpose of Trump’s tariffs?

In general, I thought the idea was to boost US manufacturing and therefore jobs by making our products more cost competitive. 

 

You answered your own question, the purpose is shat!

[The Real timschochet 5,926]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Not good.   Are you blaming Trump's month and a half in office for it?

No. But I don’t think the tariffs are going to help. And I also think it makes what DOGE is doing even more risky. 
 

If the next months jobs report is still bad then I think Trump will be partly responsible because of the tariffs. 

[Fnord 1,918]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

There was a hazing incident at Trump University where pledges were made to drink it. The brand was tarnished. 

Not bad. not bad at all.

[Ron_Artest 854]

So Trump takes over, slashes govt jobs, slashes govt funding, slaps tariffs on everyone raising the prices of virtually everything, stoking chaos in the economy.  Employers react with pausing/slowing hiring, and you all gonna blame Biden?

[Ron_Artest 854]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Not bad. not bad at all.

At least he's trying to be funny for a change.

[Fnord 1,918]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

At least he's trying to be funny for a change.

Yeah. He is regularly quite funny unintentionally. 

[Mike Hunt 239]

24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Worst jobs report since 2009: 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/06/economy/us-jobs-report-february-preview

MSM:  Applications for U.S. jobless benefits fell again last week for the second straight month as the labor market remains sturdy even with the purge of federal government employees.

The number of Americans filing for jobless benefits fell by 21,000 to 221,000 for the week ending March 1, the Labor Department said Thursday. That's significantly fewer than the analysts expected.

Weekly applications for jobless benefits are considered a proxy for layoffs, which have remained mostly in a range between 200,000 and 250,000 for years.

 

[thegeneral 2,742]

Trump has fired more federal employees than he has deported illegals. Great work!

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2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Trudeau b1tch slaps Trump

 

Doug Ford does the same

 

Senator Claude Malhuret in a speech to the French Senate is brutally scathing: "Washington has become Nero's court, with an incendiary emperor, submissive courtiers and a jester high on ketamine.  We were at war with a dictator, we are now at war with a dictator backed by a traitor."

[Ron_Artest 854]

Trump caved again 

Today he's giving Mexico a pause until April 2.  What a puzzy.

[supermike80 1,734]

24 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Trump has fired more federal employees than he has deported illegals. Great work!

Why is that bad exactly?   

[SaintsInDome2006 227]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Why is that bad exactly?   

It's like Pelosi said, paraphrasing, we'll find out when we find out.

[supermike80 1,734]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It's like Pelosi said, paraphrasing, we'll find out when we find out.

I keep hearing this.  "Elon and Trump have laid off sooo many people!" And I keep asking, well what did they do?   I'm waiting for someone to tell me.  Just cause someone is laid off doesn't mean, in any way that the department they worked for is going to be hurt.  

[The Real timschochet 5,926]

So Lutnick talked Trump down. Again. That is good news. I still don’t understand what these tariffs were supposed to accomplish but so long as they’re delayed (and hopefully eliminated) who cares? 

[jbycho 403]

Trump plays the world and wins.

Every time.

[Ron_Artest 854]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So Lutnick talked Trump down. Again. That is good news. I still don’t understand what these tariffs were supposed to accomplish but so long as they’re delayed (and hopefully eliminated) who cares? 

Well the constant spectre and back and forth is bad for the economy, bad for consumers.  At this point I'd rather the tariffs either go on or come off.  The economy does not like uncertainty.

[The Real timschochet 5,926]

21 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I keep hearing this.  "Elon and Trump have laid off sooo many people!" And I keep asking, well what did they do?   I'm waiting for someone to tell me.  Just cause someone is laid off doesn't mean, in any way that the department they worked for is going to be hurt.  

In fairness nobody can answer your question at the moment. Based on reporting it sure sounds like a lot of these folks might have been useful to our society. But we really don’t know. If months pass and people have the same access to public services they always had, then those of us who don’t like Trump and Musk will be forced to acknowledge that these were useful and good cuts (assuming that we’re honest to ourselves and others.) 

On the other hand if a lot of public services are slowed or stopped and the result is pain to our society, then I would hope that the honest Trump and Musk supporters will acknowledge that this wasn’t done thoughtfully and that it was a bad idea. 

[The Real timschochet 5,926]

2 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Trump plays the world and wins.

Every time.

What did we win this time? 

[jbycho 403]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What did we win this time? 

Dems throw House into chaos after 10 moderates join GOP to punish Al Green

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/10-dems-join-republicans-punish-al-green-trump-speech-outburst

Top New Zealand diplomat fired for what he said about Trump

https://www.foxnews.com/world/top-new-zealand-diplomat-fired-what-he-said-about-trump

 

 

 

There's plenty more....

World leaders are getting in line to give Trump what he wants. 

[supermike80 1,734]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

In fairness nobody can answer your question at the moment. Based on reporting it sure sounds like a lot of these folks might have been useful to our society. But we really don’t know. If months pass and people have the same access to public services they always had, then those of us who don’t like Trump and Musk will be forced to acknowledge that these were useful and good cuts (assuming that we’re honest to ourselves and others.) 

On the other hand if a lot of public services are slowed or stopped and the result is pain to our society, then I would hope that the honest Trump and Musk supporters will acknowledge that this wasn’t done thoughtfully and that it was a bad idea. 

That could be the most obvious statement ever made.   No kidding. IF it has an impact, then react then.  But the freaking out about it now, with no evidence or knowledge about what these people do is, again, liberal feelings clouding rational decision making.  I have literally no idea how many employees it takes to run the VA for instance.  None. Neither do you, and neither does anyone else on this board or in most of american society.  Yet, the left is losing their sheet over it.

[shadrap 195]

I can't believe the gall of Trump/Musk to demand federal employees actually work in the office rather than at home.  The Horror.

[MDC 6,887]

9 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

That could be the most obvious statement ever made.   No kidding. IF it has an impact, then react then.  But the freaking out about it now, with no evidence or knowledge about what these people do is, again, liberal feelings clouding rational decision making.  I have literally no idea how many employees it takes to run the VA for instance.  None. Neither do you, and neither does anyone else on this board or in most of american society.  Yet, the left is losing their sheet over it.

I doubt DOGE does either.

[squistion 1,816]

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1897702725971824740

TORONTO (AP)

- Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau says he expects Canada and the US to be in a trade war for the foreseeable future.

[thegeneral 2,742]

1 hour ago, supermike80 said:

Why is that bad exactly?   

First, he said he was going to bounce millions and millions of illegals. A little behind schedule!

Second, we will see won’t we? Laying off this many people this haphazardly seems to not be the best way to do this. Elon’s reporting methods seem dubious at best.

[supermike80 1,734]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

First, he said he was going to bounce millions and millions of illegals. A little behind schedule!

Second, we will see won’t we? Laying off this many people this haphazardly seems to not be the best way to do this. Elon’s reporting methods seem dubious at best.

But, sir.  My point is.  Rather than acting like a little girl and screaming from the rooftops about the cuts, when you don't know anything at all, why not wait and see what happens?   Wouldn't that be more prudent?