LIBERATION DAY: 90 day pause on all tariffs except China

[seafoam1 2,785]

5 minutes ago, Tebok said:

For Republican senators join Democrats to kick the ass of Trump's Canada tariffs.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/02/politics/senate-vote-tariffs-republicans-trump/index.html

FOCK TRUMP!

It's really fun to watch you suffer. You liberals are all really stupid, pimpledoosh. This is joyful. 

[The Real timschochet 6,308]

We’re making enemies of the entire world. 

[seafoam1 2,785]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

We’re making enemies of the entire world. 

"We". Speak for yourself loser.  

[The Real timschochet 6,308]

4 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

"We". Speak for yourself loser.  

I wish it was only you and morons like you. Unfortunately I’m along for the ride with everyone else. 

[seafoam1 2,785]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I wish it was only you and morons like you. Unfortunately I’m along for the ride with everyone else. 

With your other liberal fear mongers who are financially unstable to the point that you all can't help but cry on an anonymous posting website. 

As for me. I'm enjoying this and know that America is better for what is going on. 

You go cry about egg prices, and I'll sit back and watch you cry and enjoy it because I know you are not worth your fat weight in salt to this country. 

[The Real timschochet 6,308]

Virtually the only economists who say that we can avoid a full blown recession are the ones who think that Trump will back down. 

[The Real timschochet 6,308]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

With your other liberal fear mongers who are financially unstable to the point that you all can't help but cry on an anonymous posting website. 

As for me. I'm enjoying this and know that America is better for what is going on. 

You go cry about egg prices, and I'll sit back and watch you cry and enjoy it because I know you are not worth your fat weight in salt to this country. 

With every post you sound dumber. You obviously know nothing about economics. Beyond that, the fact that you are cheering for other people to feel pain and suffer makes you either a doosh or pretending to be a doosh. Doesn’t matter really. 

[Strike 5,164]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Virtually the only economists who say that we can avoid a full blown recession are the ones who think that Trump will back down. 

Sure.  As usual no sourcing for your assertion.  You're just making sh*t up again PedoTim

[seafoam1 2,785]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

With every post you sound dumber. You obviously know nothing about economics. Beyond that, the fact that you are cheering for other people to feel pain and suffer makes you either a doosh or pretending to be a doosh. Doesn’t matter really. 

I obviously don't know economics. That's why I'm financially well off and enjoying my life while you cry online ad nauseum about a tariff. 

And I'm cheering on YOUR pain and suffering. I don't like anything in life you stand for and I'm happy to watch you continue to fail. The more you fear monger and complain the happier it makes me. 

You don't belong in this country. You are weak. 

[CaptainObvious1 310]

21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

We’re making enemies of the entire world. 

Fock them.  We can remove our tariffs when they remove their tariffs.

[seafoam1 2,785]

3 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

Fock them.  We can remove our tariffs when they remove their tariffs.

Way way too logical for that dufus to comprehend. 

[The Real timschochet 6,308]

16 minutes ago, Strike said:

Sure.  As usual no sourcing for your assertion.  You're just making sh*t up again PedoTim

Figure it out for yourself, fool. Don’t take my word for it. 

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48 minutes ago, Tebok said:

For Republican senators join Democrats to kick the ass of Trump's Canada tariffs.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/02/politics/senate-vote-tariffs-republicans-trump/index.html

FOCK TRUMP!

Retard doesn’t know how to spell four 

[The Real timschochet 6,308]

12 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

Fock them.  We can remove our tariffs when they remove their tariffs.

Hey Captain Idiot. The tariffs are based on trade deficits. They’re not reciprocal (they will be now.) 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,861]

36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

We’re making enemies of the entire world. 

I hope they don’t attack us and take over. 

[The Real timschochet 6,308]

15 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

That's why I'm financially well off 

People who are truly financially well off don’t brag about it. 

[CaptainObvious1 310]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hey Captain Idiot. The tariffs are based on trade deficits. They’re not reciprocal (they will be now.) 

Look at the fat little b!tch throwing a tantrum

[Strike 5,164]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Figure it out for yourself, fool. Don’t take my word for it. 

Typical answer from someone just making sh*t up.  Good job PedoTim

[seafoam1 2,785]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

People who are truly financially well off don’t brag about it. 

It's not "bragging". It's just truth. You keep telling everyone they are doomed. I'm defending the smart people. Like myself to not allow this fear mongering unchecked. 

You focking idiot. Glad you are suffering. 

[Mark Davis 337]

6 hours ago, MDC said:

The problem is Trump campaigned in large part on lowering costs and it assumes every future POTUS maintains his tariff policy. By the time a lot of that manufacturing comes online he won’t be in office. 

 

 

I'm not disputing anything you posted.  But the alternative is we do nothing.  There's not a plan from Democrats to address this other than opposing Trump.  So by default it's this or status quo.  If we agree the playing field is not level, this is only partially addressing it, but it is starting to do so.  At least Biden did not reverse the tariffs on China when he was in office.  One thing that is a possibility, how often does the government willingly let go of revenue?  I'd like to see the projections and actual (when available) of what flows into the government from these.  It's not going to be small and by default the deficit is going to be reduced.  

But I agree short term it could be bad.  The American public I have next to no faith in as far as having the stomach to stick through turbulent waters if they come and therefore is politically perilous for Trump and Republicans.

[Maximum Overkill 1,715]

7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We’re making enemies of the entire world. 

Educate yourself 

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-reciprocal-tariff-chart-2054514

Most Countries are charging us over 50% 

[seafoam1 2,785]

30 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Educate yourself 

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-reciprocal-tariff-chart-2054514

Most Countries are charging us over 50% 

Timmy likes being bent over as he enjoys taking it the hard way. He thinks this whole country wants what he wants. 

[Kopy 555]

How does every day just keep getting better and better.

Damn life's good.

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5 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

I'm not disputing anything you posted.  But the alternative is we do nothing.  There's not a plan from Democrats to address this other than opposing Trump.  So by default it's this or status quo.  If we agree the playing field is not level, this is only partially addressing it, but it is starting to do so.  At least Biden did not reverse the tariffs on China when he was in office.  One thing that is a possibility, how often does the government willingly let go of revenue?  I'd like to see the projections and actual (when available) of what flows into the government from these.  It's not going to be small and by default the deficit is going to be reduced.  

But I agree short term it could be bad.  The American public I have next to no faith in as far as having the stomach to stick through turbulent waters if they come and therefore is politically perilous for Trump and Republicans.

You’re 100% right about the Dems. 

There’s a case for short term pain = long term benefit, but Trump never made that case. He campaigned on lowering costs. Can’t blame the public if they don’t have the stomach for it.

I’d be willing to bet Trump does away with most of the tariffs before the midterms. It’s a stunt not a strategy.  

[The Psychic Observer 437]

6 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

I'm not disputing anything you posted.  But the alternative is we do nothing.  There's not a plan from Democrats to address this other than opposing Trump.  So by default it's this or status quo.  If we agree the playing field is not level, this is only partially addressing it, but it is starting to do so.  At least Biden did not reverse the tariffs on China when he was in office.  One thing that is a possibility, how often does the government willingly let go of revenue?  I'd like to see the projections and actual (when available) of what flows into the government from these.  It's not going to be small and by default the deficit is going to be reduced.  

But I agree short term it could be bad.  The American public I have next to no faith in as far as having the stomach to stick through turbulent waters if they come and therefore is politically perilous for Trump and Republicans.

The alternative is that we provide incentives for corporations to invest in the US.  Like the chips act which brought chip manufacturing to the US. It's using a carrot instead of a stick.  Give people a reason to invest here without punishing them or consumers.

The other alternative is to renegotiate trade deals. Trump did this with NAFTA, creating the the usmca. Instead of renegotiating other trade deals he is just punishing the world.

It's not a smart tactic.  If you're hoping for long term gain don't hold your breath.  Factories won't start popping up overnight if at all.

The likely outcome here is that this crashes the global economy and in 2 years Congress unwinds it all and we to healing and moving forward.

[Strike 5,164]

31 minutes ago, MDC said:

You’re 100% right about the Dems. 

There’s a case for short term pain = long term benefit, but Trump never made that case. He campaigned on lowering costs. Can’t blame the public if they don’t have the stomach for it.

I’d be willing to bet Trump does away with most of the tariffs before the midterms. It’s a stunt not a strategy.  

It's your position that Trump never campaigned on Tariffs?  I think you're wrong there.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,861]

18 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

The alternative is that we provide incentives for corporations to invest in the US.  Like the chips act which brought chip manufacturing to the US. It's using a carrot instead of a stick.  Give people a reason to invest here without punishing them or consumers.

The other alternative is to renegotiate trade deals. Trump did this with NAFTA, creating the the usmca. Instead of renegotiating other trade deals he is just punishing the world.

It's not a smart tactic.  If you're hoping for long term gain don't hold your breath.  Factories won't start popping up overnight if at all.

The likely outcome here is that this crashes the global economy and in 2 years Congress unwinds it all and we to healing and moving forward.

There was almost no hiring due to the CHIPS act because of the DEI requirements. 

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

It's your position that Trump never campaigned on Tariffs?  I think you're wrong there.

No, it’s my position that he never campaigned on higher costs in the short term due to tariffs. He campaigned on lowering costs. HTH

[seafoam1 2,785]

13 minutes ago, Strike said:

It's your position that Trump never campaigned on Tariffs?  I think you're wrong there.

He is wrong. And the tariffs will do what Trump said they will do. 

Liberals are simply losing their minds over this like they have proven to do over absolutely everything Trump has done and will do in the future. 

This is no different. 

[The Psychic Observer 437]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

There was almost no hiring due to the CHIPS act because of the DEI requirements. 

This is not true.  Estimates are over 100,000 jobs created.  If anything the issue has been not being able to fill these jobs due to either lack of talent or lack of interest.  Young adults don't exactly aspire to be factory workers anymore.

[Strike 5,164]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

No, it’s my position that he never campaigned on higher costs in the short term due to tariffs. He campaigned on lowering costs. HTH

We haven't seen higher costs yet, have we?  You, like @The Real timschochet, are jumping ahead a little bit.  You might have a legit complaint IF his Tariffs result in higher prices.  But, as even you have noted, they may not even last.  A bunch of countries have already capitulated and started lowering/eliminating Tariffs. 

But I would posit that anyone who listened to his platform understood that there could be some short term pain in the name of long term gain.  It's unfortunate that so much of our populace lives in sound bites and doesn't intelligently parse the entirety of what someone says.  There was a study done a few Presidential cycles ago documenting how each Presidential cycle finds the candidates dumbing down their vocabulary/speaking style.  Kamala was probably the epitome of that.  She speaks like a third grader.  Idiocracy truly was a documentary and eventually we will have our own Camacho as President.  Fortunately I'll likely be long gone by then.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,861]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

This is not true.  Estimates are over 100,000 jobs created.  If anything the issue has been not being able to fill these jobs due to either lack of talent or lack of interest.  Young adults don't exactly aspire to be factory workers anymore.

DEI chips act. Go read and get back to us. 

[seafoam1 2,785]

3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

This is not true.  Estimates are over 100,000 jobs created.  If anything the issue has been not being able to fill these jobs due to either lack of talent or lack of interest.  Young adults don't exactly aspire to be factory workers anymore.

So there are no young people delivering packages, mail, working at companies that make pens, sticky notes, plastic containers, working in food service or bartending, working on the railroad, garbage collectors, being plumbers, etc...etc....etc...? 

Are you really this focking stupid? 

[The Psychic Observer 437]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

We haven't seen higher costs yet, have we?  You, like @The Real timschochet, are jumping ahead a little bit.  You might have a legit complaint IF his Tariffs result in higher prices.  But, as even you have noted, they may not even last.  A bunch of countries have already capitulated and started lowering/eliminating Tariffs. 

But I would posit that anyone who listened to his platform understood that there could be some short term pain in the name of long term gain.  It's unfortunate that so much of our populace lives in sound bites and doesn't intelligently parse the entirety of what someone says.  There was a study done a few Presidential cycles ago documenting how each Presidential cycle finds the candidates dumbing down their vocabulary/speaking style.  Kamala was probably the epitome of that.  She speaks like a third grader.  Idiocracy truly was a documentary and eventually we will have our own Camacho as President.  Fortunately I'll likely be long gone by then.

Higher costs will come.  Everyone knows this including trump.

Funny you bring up that vocabulary study.  Back in 2018 Trump was found to speak at a 4th grade level,  lowest among last 15 presidents.  Last term he dropped to a 3rd grade level while Harris was at a 6th grade level.

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

We haven't seen higher costs yet, have we?  You, like @The Real timschochet, are jumping ahead a little bit.  You might have a legit complaint IF his Tariffs result in higher prices.  But, as even you have noted, they may not even last.  A bunch of countries have already capitulated and started lowering/eliminating Tariffs. 

But I would posit that anyone who listened to his platform understood that there could be some short term pain in the name of long term gain.  It's unfortunate that so much of our populace lives in sound bites and doesn't intelligently parse the entirety of what someone says.  There was a study done a few Presidential cycles ago documenting how each Presidential cycle finds the candidates dumbing down their vocabulary/speaking style.  Kamala was probably the epitome of that.  She speaks like a third grader.  Idiocracy truly was a documentary and eventually we will have our own Camacho as President.  Fortunately I'll likely be long gone by then.

No, we haven’t seen higher prices yet. If Trump carries through on his plan and we see lower costs and a new US manufacturing boom I’ll be thrilled, I’m just not banking on it. My guess is Trump eliminates most of the tariffs before midterms and claims Great Success. 

I didn’t watch a ton of Trump speeches but I do remember a lot of biiching about inflation and a promise to lower prices. I must have missed the talk about short term pain if he gets elected. 

[seafoam1 2,785]

1 minute ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Higher costs will come.  Everyone knows this including trump.

Funny you bring up that vocabulary study.  Back in 2018 Trump was found to speak at a 4th grade level,  lowest among last 15 presidents.  Last term he dropped to a 3rd grade level while Harris was at a 6th grade level.

Oh my God!!! Trump!!! 

Liberals have nothing left in the tank. 

[The Psychic Observer 437]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

No, we haven’t seen higher prices yet. If Trump carries through on his plan and we see lower costs and a new US manufacturing boom I’ll be thrilled, I’m just not banking on it. My guess is Trump eliminates most of the tariffs before midterms and claims Great Success. 

I didn’t watch a ton of Trump speeches but I do remember a lot of biiching about inflation and a promise to lower prices. I must have missed the talk about short term pain if he gets elected. 

Trump specifically said he will lower prices on day 1.  That never happened.

[seafoam1 2,785]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

Trump specifically said he will lower prices on day 1.  That never happened.

Let me give your tiny mind a hint. He set things in motion on day one. Your whole damaged literal translation is all you have left. This means you are running on empty libtard. You literally have nothing left. 

 

[The Psychic Observer 437]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Let me give your tiny mind a hint. He set things in motion on day one. Your whole damaged literal translation is all you have left. This means you are running on empty libtard. You literally have nothing left. 

 

When he said he was going to lower prices on day 1 he didn't mean that literally?  When do prices go down?

[seafoam1 2,785]

4 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

When he said he was going to lower prices on day 1 he didn't mean that literally?  When do prices go down?

They are down. I do the shopping in my family. Just about everything is down as far as groceries and gas. Just because you all are broke, don't blame me. 

And I laugh at you retards taking everything so literally down to the minute that you are too blind to see the good going on. I guess you didn't get that from my last post. Over your head I guess.