Fnord 1,986 Posted March 27 43 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: New York CNN: South Korea-based Hyundai and President Donald Trump announced a $20 billion investment in US on-shoring on Monday, which includes a $5 billion steel plant in Louisiana, at the White House Monday. The $5.8 billion Louisiana facility will be the car manufacturers’ first full steel manufacturing facility in the US and will produce more than 2.7 million metric tons of steel a year and create more than 1,400 jobs. It will supply the steel to auto plants in Alabama and Georgia. The announcement this afternoon at the White House included Trump, Hyundai Chairman Euisun Chung and Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry. Well that sounds great! But so did the Foxconn deal in Wisconsin, until it wasn't. I wonder what sort of gigantic tax breaks and benefits will be offered to some of these companies that will make a really excellent show of investment stateside up until the point they no longer have to. Seems like a giant shell game to me. But I am admittedly biased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,009 Posted March 27 April 2 fast approaches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted March 27 Japan will be economically devastated by these tariffs: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/03/27/japan-auto-industry-trump-tariffs/ Economic instability in Japan and other countries will lead to political turmoil as well. There’s going to be a lot of unforeseen consequences to this, none of them good. We are choosing, very deliberately, to upend the world order which has brought this nation great prosperity for the last 80 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,782 Posted March 27 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Japan will be economically devastated by these tariffs: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/03/27/japan-auto-industry-trump-tariffs/ Economic instability in Japan and other countries will lead to political turmoil as well. There’s going to be a lot of unforeseen consequences to this, none of them good. We are choosing, very deliberately, to upend the world order which has brought this nation great prosperity for the last 80 years. America has never been great I’m told. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted March 27 These tarrifs are the biggest story right now in the news. Way more important than anything else going on in my estimation. Biggest thing since Covid and possibly bigger in terms of the long term effects on all of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 482 Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: These tarrifs are the biggest story right now in the news. Way more important than anything else going on in my estimation. Biggest thing since Covid and possibly bigger in terms of the long term effects on all of us. Speak for yourself. I like what Trump is doing with the tariffs and I've moved on. Life is good. You can linger in your own pain and keep trying to make others feel like you do but it's just not working. If you are bringing down the people around you on a daily basis like you try to do here, then that's on them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted March 27 1 minute ago, jbycho said: Speak for yourself. I like what Trump is doing with the tariffs and I've moved on. Life is good. You can linger in your own pain and keep trying to make others feel like you do but it's just not working. If you are bringing down the people around you on a daily basis like you try to do here, then that's on them. Lol “you’ve moved on”. You haven’t even begun to see the effects in your own life yet. You likely won’t for months to come. When you start to notice it will be too late for you. And me and everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 482 Posted March 27 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Lol “you’ve moved on”. You haven’t even begun to see the effects in your own life yet. You likely won’t for months to come. When you start to notice it will be too late for you. And me and everyone. You are proving my point. Go try to scare someone else. Fear mongering is an ugly habit that you liberals are pushing. It doesn't work on the intelligent. I win. You lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted March 27 CNN economist just now: by this time next year every new car in this country will be $5,000- $10,000 more expensive. I am not trying to fear monger here. I’m just looking at what is likely to happen. We are going to face higher prices on virtually all products, which will lead to less spending and more unemployment. Those in favor of this seem to believe this is short term pain for long term prosperity. I think it’s short term pain for longer term greater pain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, jbycho said: You are proving my point. Go try to scare someone else. Fear mongering is an ugly habit that you liberals are pushing. It doesn't work on the intelligent. I win. You lose. It’s much more like I lose you lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 482 Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s much more like I lose you lose. Just by your attitude and views in life you lose. And I'm set for the future. Sorry you can't do anything about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted March 27 Interesting that nobody seems to want to talk about this. Catastrophe is less than a week away… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 65 Posted March 27 Trump was right about everything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,333 Posted March 27 18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Interesting that nobody seems to want to talk about this. Catastrophe is less than a week away… What is there to say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,009 Posted March 27 Odd to assert in a 21 page thread that nobody wants to talk about the subject. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,090 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: CNN economist just now: by this time next year every new car in this country will be $5,000- $10,000 more expensive. I am not trying to fear monger here. I’m just looking at what is likely to happen. We are going to face higher prices on virtually all products, which will lead to less spending and more unemployment. Those in favor of this seem to believe this is short term pain for long term prosperity. I think it’s short term pain for longer term greater pain. Nameless CNN economist. That's like the MSM and their "anonymous sources." I shall give it the appropriate amount of attention it deserves. *YAWN* In other news, more MS-13 gang members arrested. WOO HOO!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,009 Posted March 27 18 minutes ago, Strike said: Nameless CNN economist. That's like the MSM and their "anonymous sources." I shall give it the appropriate amount of attention it deserves. *YAWN* In other news, more MS-13 gang members arrested. WOO HOO!!!!! Maybe we can combine the two problems. We can provide a trariff credit for every illegal other countries will voluntarily take in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,782 Posted March 27 What does Paul Krugman have to say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,016 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Interesting that nobody seems to want to talk about this. Catastrophe is less than a week away… Why bother? Trump puts tariffs on all goods 4/2 it’s basically a coin flip he takes them off within a day or 2. That’s the kind of steady leadership we get with this admin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted March 28 Trump’s nickname for Tuesday is “Liberation Day” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 482 Posted March 28 8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Interesting that nobody seems to want to talk about this. Catastrophe is less than a week away… What's to talk about? You have 21 pages of useless fear mongering. Why are you adding more? Everyone knows you are scared Tim guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,683 Posted Friday at 10:31 AM 17 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: CNN economist just now: CNN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted Sunday at 02:23 PM Pretty good analysis of the immediate effects of the tariffs from Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/trump-new-tariffs-liberation-day-import-taxes-118d73f50e5133ef3d9598aed6661a6c One hopeful line: “It is also possible that the tariffs are short-lived if Trump feels he can get a deal after imposing them.” Fine. Let Trump get his deal, proclaim victory. Let his fans cheer him on. So long as the tariffs are ahort-term I don’t care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,745 Posted Sunday at 02:24 PM 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Pretty good analysis of the immediate effects of the tariffs from Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/trump-new-tariffs-liberation-day-import-taxes-118d73f50e5133ef3d9598aed6661a6c One hopeful line: “It is also possible that the tariffs are short-lived if Trump feels he can get a deal after imposing them.” Fine. Let Trump get his deal, proclaim victory. Let his fans cheer him on. So long as the tariffs are ahort-term I don’t care. Oh, the pain timmy is in is simply awesome to watch unfold. He's playing the 'cover his ass' game already for when he knows Trump will keep winning over and over again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted Monday at 05:19 PM Th self inflicted pain is coming in 2 days. So unnecessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 482 Posted Monday at 05:27 PM 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Th self inflicted pain is coming in 2 days. So unnecessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted Monday at 08:53 PM More good analysis: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/31/business/trump-tariffs-higher-prices.html In essence President Trump is making the same mistake that leftists do when they call for austerity methods to combat climate change: leftists like AOC think the public is willing to accept hardships in the name of the environment. Trump thinks the public is willing to accept hardships in the name of nationalism. The public won’t accept either. The public doesn’t like pain in exchange for some nebulous goal. If you are a conservative reading this please understand: unless Trump can be talked out of these tarrifs all of the reasons you voted for him will be for naught. Everything else that he is trying to do, that you voted for, will be swept aside because these tariffs will bring about much misery followed by a Democratic landslide. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,683 Posted Monday at 09:30 PM 36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: you are a conservative reading this please understand: unless Trump can be talked out of these tarrifs all of the reasons you voted for him will be for naught. Don't cry for me Timmay, I'll be just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted Tuesday at 01:26 PM Europe warns Trump: prepare for swift retaliation: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/01/business/europe-retaliation-plan-us-tariffs-intl/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 482 Posted Tuesday at 01:27 PM 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Europe warns Trump: prepare for swift retaliation: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/01/business/europe-retaliation-plan-us-tariffs-intl/index.html Oh no. You still scared? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,286 Posted Tuesday at 01:29 PM 16 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: If you are a conservative reading this please understand: unless Trump can be talked out of these tarrifs all of the reasons you voted for him will be for naught. Everything else that he is trying to do, that you voted for, will be swept aside because these tariffs will bring about much misery followed by a Democratic landslide. We're still getting big tax cuts for the rich right? Your predictions are always spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 482 Posted Tuesday at 01:34 PM 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: We're still getting big tax cuts for the rich right? Your predictions are always spot on. That dude is literally an emotional wreck. I'm betting he's bordering bankruptcy. And wishing it on others so he's not so alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,000 Posted Tuesday at 01:35 PM When is LIBATION DAY? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,986 Posted Tuesday at 01:40 PM 4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: When is LIBATION DAY? EVERY DAY! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted Tuesday at 01:40 PM 5 minutes ago, jbycho said: That dude is literally an emotional wreck. I'm betting he's bordering bankruptcy. And wishing it on others so he's not so alone. Thanks for your concern but I’m doing fine. And I don’t wish others to suffer either including you. I want everyone to do well. Unfortunately we are staring at an economic catastrophe of our own design. Completely unnecessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,761 Posted Tuesday at 01:42 PM Just checking in to see if Tim is still predicting the end of the world as we know it. Confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,144 Posted Tuesday at 01:46 PM Just now, supermike80 said: Just checking in to see if Tim is still predicting the end of the world as we know it. Confirmed. Oh Fock off already. Im not predicting the end of the world. I’m predicting bad economic times and a lot of unnecessary suffering, until Trump reverses himself (which hopefully will be soon.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 482 Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Thanks for your concern. I have no concern for you failing. You have already failed. And now you are scared that you'll be broke in days. I'm glad for that actually. You are on the wrong side of everything that is good for this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,761 Posted Tuesday at 01:52 PM 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Oh Fock off already. Im not predicting the end of the world. I’m predicting bad economic times and a lot of unnecessary suffering, until Trump reverses himself (which hopefully will be soon.) "Unfortunately we are staring at an economic catastrophe of our own design." Sure Timmy. Whatever you say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
