Joe Biden "A great American Tragedy"

[Mike Hunt 248]

 

 

NBC News: Joe Biden ascended to the highest office in America with a pledge to unite the country, strengthen his party and defend democracy. 

Instead, in the 82-year-old’s Oval Office denouement, he leaves a nation divided, a party in tatters and the American people questioning the self-described institutionalist’s respect for the rule of law.

 

Many Democrats are blaming Biden for handing the White House to Donald Trump, criticizing the aging politician for staying in office too long and reeling after he pardoned his son. Exacerbating the frustrations, Biden recently expressed doubt about his ability to serve another four years after dismissing voters’ concerns about that very issue as he sought re-election. 

The president harbors bitter resentment toward members of his own party. After the November election, he privately mused about the idea of pardoning Trump as a magnanimous move, according to a person directly familiar with his comments, At the same time, Biden is not on speaking terms with what used to be some of his closest allies.

It is all an inglorious coda to five decades in public office.

“The Joe Biden story is one of the great tragedies of American politics. I really mean that. He should be having a glorious, well deserved, highly acclaimed retirement. And he’s not,” veteran Democratic political strategist James Carville said. “It’s hard to blame anybody but him.” 

[Ron_Artest 915]

Lets keep talking about the Bidens!

[Fnord 1,932]

I'm not going to fault Joe for the divisions in this country. The way our media is presently constructed and consumed, there is almost zero chance of a POTUS from either party overcoming those divisions. Probably even less chance of a Democrat doing it.

Everything else is fair game. He had some policy wins, but Dems are so inept at messaging that those wins were rarely highlighted. I 100% blame him for not holding to his word of being a 1-term president, his handlers for covering up his mental decline, and the DNC for being utterly useless and incompetent for most of my life. I have no pity for him feeling bad right now. He screwed himself, his party, and every American by putting his own ego ahead of the interests of the country.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,623]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Lets keep talking about the Bidens!

How many days into the Biden Regime did they stop talking about and/or blaming Trump?

[posty 2,557]

2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

How many days into the Biden Regime did they stop talking about and/or blaming Trump?

1,461?

[squistion 1,836]

This is from NBC News? Yeah, that's what the OP says, but there is no link and I can't find it in a Google search.

[weepaws 3,103]

The government is a US tragedy, and voters that keep supporting the fall of the US.  Nice job.  Indeed Amen Thanks 

[supermike80 1,753]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

This is from NBC News? Yeah, that's what the OP says, but there is no link and I can't find it in a Google search.

Understandable.  if it's not on twitter, you can't find it

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/joe-biden-ends-5-decades-public-life-one-greatest-tragedies-american-p-rcna183989

[Hardcore troubadour 14,654]

No shitt

[squistion 1,836]

Just now, supermike80 said:

Understandable.  if it's not on twitter, you can't find it

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/joe-biden-ends-5-decades-public-life-one-greatest-tragedies-american-p-rcna183989

I couldn't find with a Google search using the thread title or the first sentence of the article.

This is from January and looks like an opinion piece from the three writers. 

[supermike80 1,753]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

I couldn't find with a Google search using the thread title or the first sentence of the article.

This is from January and looks like an opinion piece from the three writers. 

Gee you don't say.   Awesome analysis.   I guess thank you?   No one else would have been able to decipher that.   Thank goodness you're here

[Hardcore troubadour 14,654]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

I couldn't find with a Google search using the thread title or the first sentence of the article.

This is from January and looks like an opinion piece from the three writers. 

You should give a rebuttal. 

[Mike Hunt 248]

10 minutes ago, squistion said:

I couldn't find with a Google search using the thread title or the first sentence of the article.

This is from January and looks like an opinion piece from the three writers. 

Yep, one of the opinions is from veteran Democratic Strategist Jame Carville. 

[squistion 1,836]

4 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Gee you don't say.   Awesome analysis.   I guess thank you?   No one else would have been able to decipher that.   Thank goodness you're here

No, they wouldn't from the OP, which omits who wrote this, giving the impression it was the position of NBC News, not of the 3 journalists.  

[Mike Hunt 248]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

No, they wouldn't from the OP, which omits who wrote this, giving the impression it was the position of NBC News, not of the 3 journalists.  

So NBC News.com site is not NBC??   

[WhiteWonder 2,631]

As bad as Biden was, when I think back on his "4 years" as president, my biggest take away is asking myself what did he actually do?

I'm sure one of the sheep democrats who base their lives around politics can tell me some things he accomplished while in office, but the biggest thing that comes to mind for me is the student loan forgiveness garbage that he attempted....  well, that and the sad ending of being forced out by his own party.  

I don't have any great hatred for him. After all, he was a hot headed and racist senator who they used in his old age to attach to Obama and then decided that he would remind people enough of Obama to beat Trump. 

I would have already held much more hatred for Kamala, had she won. I think she would have been a much bigger disaster than anything from 2021-2024. 

[squistion 1,836]

2 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

So NBC News.com site is not NBC??   

It is, but one might think this was some sort of editorial by NBC and not just an opinion piece by the three writers (since there was no link provided and the authors names were omitted from the OP).

[supermike80 1,753]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

It is, but one might think this was some sort of editorial by NBC and not just an opinion piece by the three writers (since there was no link provided and the authors names were omitted from the OP).

He copied and pasted the article.   Most people can figure out the analysis you did.   The link literally says "nbcnews"

The OP wasn't being deceptive.  My goodness quit it.

[supermike80 1,753]

8 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

So NBC News.com site is not NBC??   

Not sure his point here.  But let him carry on.  Give him his wins I guess?

[Mike Hunt 248]

Just now, squistion said:

It is, but one might think this was some sort of editorial by NBC and not just an opinion piece by the three writers (since there was no link provided and the authors names were omitted from the OP).

First couple paragraphs were enough to make it a fast read.

The rest of the article gets worse for Biden.  

[shadrap 199]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

It is, but one might think this was some sort of editorial by NBC and not just an opinion piece by the three writers (since there was no link provided and the authors names were omitted from the OP).

go get em squid

[supermike80 1,753]

Just now, shadrap said:

go get em squid

LOLOL

[squistion 1,836]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

He copied and pasted the article.   Most people can figure out the analysis you did.   The ink literally says "nbcnews"

Not that when there was no link provided and the three authors names were omitted.  

[Mike Hunt 248]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

He copied and pasted the article.   Most people can figure out the analysis you did.   The link literally says "nbcnews"

The OP wasn't being deceptive.  My goodness quit it.

It is Friday during Lent, Squid`s favorite seafood is the "Red Herring"

 

[supermike80 1,753]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Not that when there was no link provided and the three authors names were omitted.  

So you're saying only YOU could provide the deep analysis of the article and the rest of us are all dumb.  Ok..Gotcha

[squistion 1,836]

Just now, supermike80 said:

So you're saying only YOU could provide the deep analysis of the article and the rest of us are all dumb.  Ok..Gotcha

No, Strawman, I am not saying that. 

[supermike80 1,753]

Here's the bio on the three authors.  Who are what? Not credible?  Not believable?  I don't understand Squishes position here

Natasha Korecki

Natasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.

 

Carol E. Lee

Carol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.

 

Jonathan Allen

Jonathan Allen is a senior national politics reporter for NBC News

[supermike80 1,753]

Just now, squistion said:

No, Strawman, I am not saying that. 

What are you saying then?  You said since the OP left out the link and the authors names, if it wasn't for you, no one would have been able to analyze the article as you.  

If not that then what?

[Mike Hunt 248]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Here's the bio on the three authors.  Who are what? Not credible?  Not believable?  I don't understand Squishes position here

Natasha Korecki

Natasha Korecki is a senior national political reporter for NBC News.

 

Carol E. Lee

Carol E. Lee is the Washington managing editor.

 

Jonathan Allen

Jonathan Allen is a senior national politics reporter for NBC News

And quotes from James Carville!    Squid needs more proof!

[squistion 1,836]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

What are you saying then?  You said since the OP left out the link and the authors names, if it wasn't for you, no one would have been able to analyze the article as you.  

If not that then what?

No, Strawman, that was not what I was saying. But carry on...

[supermike80 1,753]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

No, Strawman, that was not what I was saying. But carry on...

I am very willing to hear what you were saying.  Please.

[supermike80 1,753]

Most people can figure out the analysis you did.   

Not that when there was no link provided and the three authors names were omitted. 

 

So explain what you meant by this.  I said most people could figure it out, you said that wasn't true.  What am I missing?

[squistion 1,836]

Just now, Mike Hunt said:

Here's the bio on the three authors.  Who are what? Not credible?  

And quotes from James Carville!    Squid needs more proof!

Dude, it is an opinion piece, the credibility of the authors is irrelevant as they are still just expressing their opinion and not an official NBC editorial position. 

[TheNewGirl 1,286]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Lets keep talking about the Bidens!

Can't have it both ways. 

Trump was complained about incessantly for four years here. How many "GOT HIM THIS TIME!!!" posts did we have? 

[Mike Hunt 248]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Dude, it is an opinion piece, the credibility of the authors is irrelevant as they are still just expressing their opinion and not an official NBC editorial position. 

I never said it was.  It was from NBCNews.Com site.  

Do you think James Carville knows the ins and outs of the Dem Party?  Do you think his opinion carries any weight?

You probably did until now. 

[squistion 1,836]

4 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Most people can figure out the analysis you did.   

Not that when there was no link provided and the three authors names were omitted. 

So explain what you meant by this.  I said most people could figure it out, you said that wasn't true.  What am I missing?

What started this was that I was respondng to what you originally said:

"no one would have been able to analyze the article as you."  

Which is not the same as saying most people could figure it out. "No one" is all inclusive and has a different meaning than "most people"

[squistion 1,836]

12 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

I never said it was.  It was from NBCNews.Com site.  

Do you think James Carville knows the ins and outs of the Dem Party?  Do you think his opinion carries any weight?

You probably did until now. 

No, but your omission of the authors names in your cut and paste and not providing the link suggests that (perhaps not intentional on your part).

I haven't taken James Carville's rants seriously in the last decade (which is probably true of most Democrats and liberals IMO). He hasn't been relevant since the Clinton years. 

[shadrap 199]

go get em squid.

[Nomad99 676]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

I'm not going to fault Joe for the divisions in this country. The way our media is presently constructed and consumed, there is almost zero chance of a POTUS from either party overcoming those divisions. Probably even less chance of a Democrat doing it.

Everything else is fair game. He had some policy wins, but Dems are so inept at messaging that those wins were rarely highlighted. I 100% blame him for not holding to his word of being a 1-term president, his handlers for covering up his mental decline, and the DNC for being utterly useless and incompetent for most of my life. I have no pity for him feeling bad right now. He screwed himself, his party, and every American by putting his own ego ahead of the interests of the country.

I'm not sure that I've ever agreed with you on here, but with this I am in agreement. 

[supermike80 1,753]

24 minutes ago, shadrap said:

go get em squid.

squish is on the prowl today!