weepaws 3,103 Posted 21 hours ago Very scary, trump did call Epstein friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,634 Posted 21 hours ago Biden started COVID Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,954 Posted 21 hours ago Typical LIb/Media overreaction, twisting everything around werds. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 919 Posted 21 hours ago It's just his autism 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,913 Posted 20 hours ago This is the admin who wants to deport a student for threatening and harassing Jews. @Reality @RLLD @Voltaire any take? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,174 Posted 20 hours ago 36 minutes ago, MDC said: Link Dafuq 100% true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,967 Posted 20 hours ago I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,247 Posted 20 hours ago Props Tim. One step above Gay_Artest and RunMDC. That's something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,117 Posted 19 hours ago 32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Thank you for demonstrating intellectual honesty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 281 Posted 19 hours ago 36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. I fully endorse this reasonably objective/non-biased take on the gist of Elon's thought process, if not his words verbatim. Very good stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,954 Posted 19 hours ago 40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Unless you are mind reader, you are guessing, you don't know what he was thinking or pointing out when he retweeted that post. And regardless of what his motivations for retweeting it, his repost of it, in conjunction with his current position is making a comparison of US public sector workers to people who carried out some of the most heinous crimes in recorded history. That in itself makes him unfit to be in a position where he is deciding their worthiness to work for the govt. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 919 Posted 19 hours ago I'm pretty sick of rationalizing and sane washing deleterious thoughts and statements. That got us Trump 2.0. We don't need to keep doing this. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,847 Posted 18 hours ago Covid showed us that Elon is right about this. Cops during covid: "just doin muh job" Hospital workers: "no shot, no organ transplant" Common maskers: "antivaxxers need to be removed from society" A lot was revealed about the black hearts in the world. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,913 Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said: Covid showed is that Elon is right about this. Cops during covid: "just doin muh job" Hospital workers: "no shot, no heart transplant" Common maskers: "antivaxxers need to be removed from society" A lot was revealed about the black hearts in the world. Something can be factually true and a monumentally stupid thing to say, too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 919 Posted 18 hours ago 4 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Covid showed is that Elon is right about this. Cops during covid: "just doin muh job" Hospital workers: "no shot, no organ transplant" Common maskers: "antivaxxers need to be removed from society" A lot was revealed about the black hearts in the world. bro comparing wearing masks and taking vaccines to the gassing of jews. WTF. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,659 Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, MDC said: Link Dafuq Awww. Let me know when they show some outrage about what is said about cops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,967 Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Thank you for demonstrating intellectual honesty. OK you’re welcome but where is your criticism of Musk for not doing the same? First off as I pointed out this statement completely contradicts his earlier assertion that DOGE was going after waste; that has been shown to be a dishonest claim. Second @Mike Honcho is correct: Musk here is implicitly comparing American public sector workers to those who committed grave crimes against humanity, which really is an offensive analogy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,701 Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: Unless you are mind reader, you are guessing, you don't know what he was thinking or pointing out when he retweeted that post. And regardless of what his motivations for retweeting it, his repost of it, in conjunction with his current position is making a comparison of US public sector workers to people who carried out some of the most heinous crimes in recorded history. That in itself makes him unfit to be in a position where he is deciding their worthiness to work for the govt. I mean if you're going to accuse Tim of that, you realize that you just assumed Trump was defending Hitler without really knowing what he was thinking or pointing out, right? Logical adults know exactly what he was talking about and he wasn't defending Hitler. Hysterical and illogical zealots are the ones that are making assumptions here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,954 Posted 17 hours ago Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I mean if you're going to accuse Tim of that, you realize that you just assumed Trump was defending Hitler without really knowing what he was thinking or pointing out, right? How did you reach the conclusion that I assumed Trump was defending HItler? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,701 Posted 17 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: How did you reach the conclusion that I assumed Trump was defending HItler? Musk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,954 Posted 17 hours ago Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Musk Sorry, but you are jumping to conclusion that isn't supported by anything I've said. My comments to Tim are strictly based on what he said based on a retweet with no comments and that he couldn't know what Musks thoughts. I don't see anything from that post that could be used in some transitive sense that Trump was defending Hitler. Just saying Musk doesn't really cut it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,117 Posted 17 hours ago 44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: OK you’re welcome but where is your criticism of Musk for not doing the same? First off as I pointed out this statement completely contradicts his earlier assertion that DOGE was going after waste; that has been shown to be a dishonest claim. Second @Mike Honcho is correct: Musk here is implicitly comparing American public sector workers to those who committed grave crimes against humanity, which really is an offensive analogy. I don't understand the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 247 Posted 16 hours ago 4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Tim, you are reaching out to be diplomatic and rational way, way too far here. Musk is equating federal employees with Nazi death camp guards and genocidal psychopaths, and Musk is absolving Hitler. It's mass disinformation and a sick attempt to engender hatred of federal, state and city workers of all kinds. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,847 Posted 15 hours ago 19 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Tim, you are reaching out to be diplomatic and rational way, way too far here. Musk is equating federal employees with Nazi death camp guards and genocidal psychopaths, and Musk is absolving Hitler. It's mass disinformation and a sick attempt to engender hatred of federal, state and city workers of all kinds. Endanger? If you haven't noticed, it's your cohorts who are throwing the Molotov cocktails, not the Red Hats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,103 Posted 15 hours ago no matter how you slice it..pathetic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 414 Posted 15 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Herbivore said: no matter how you slice it..pathetic At least you know yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,967 Posted 15 hours ago 52 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Tim, you are reaching out to be diplomatic and rational way, way too far here. Musk is equating federal employees with Nazi death camp guards and genocidal psychopaths, and Musk is absolving Hitler. It's mass disinformation and a sick attempt to engender hatred of federal, state and city workers of all kinds. I agree with the first part of your criticism, not the second part. He is making an extremely unfair comparison, but not absolving Hitler. (I should add this is only my opinion. @Mike Hunt is correct I don’t know for sure.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted 15 hours ago Turns out the world’s richest man is an a$$hole. Go figure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 414 Posted 14 hours ago I love what Trump is doing to the little minds of the liberals. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,625 Posted 14 hours ago Meanwhile the libs love actual Nazi’s like the ones in Ukraine and Davos. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,692 Posted 13 hours ago 7 hours ago, MDC said: Link Dafuq Is "Dafuq" English for anything other than "I'm a libtard and really really stupid."? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,082 Posted 10 hours ago 10 hours ago, MDC said: This is the admin who wants to deport a student for threatening and harassing Jews. @Reality @RLLD @Voltaire any take? We seem to have a dire shortage of genocidal lunatics in our country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites