Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
MDC

Hitler didn’t murder millions of people, public sector workers did

Recommended Posts

Very scary, trump did call Epstein friend.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

Thank you for demonstrating intellectual honesty.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

I fully endorse this reasonably objective/non-biased take on the gist of Elon's thought process, if not his words verbatim. 

Very good stuff ✌️

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

Unless you are mind reader, you are guessing, you don't know what he was thinking or pointing out when he retweeted that post. And regardless of what his motivations for retweeting it, his repost of it, in conjunction with his current position is making a comparison of US public sector workers to people who carried out some of the most heinous crimes in recorded history.  That in itself makes him unfit to be in a position where he is deciding their worthiness to work for the govt. 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm pretty sick of rationalizing and sane washing deleterious thoughts and statements.

That got us Trump 2.0.  We don't need to keep doing this.

  • Like 3
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Covid showed us that Elon is right about this. 

Cops during covid: "just doin muh job"

Hospital workers: "no shot, no organ transplant"

Common maskers: "antivaxxers need to be removed from society"

A lot was revealed about the black hearts in the world.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said:

Covid showed is that Elon is right about this. 

Cops during covid: "just doin muh job"

Hospital workers: "no shot, no heart transplant"

Common maskers: "antivaxxers need to be removed from society"

A lot was revealed about the black hearts in the world.

Something can be factually true and a monumentally stupid thing to say, too.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Covid showed is that Elon is right about this. 

Cops during covid: "just doin muh job"

Hospital workers: "no shot, no organ transplant"

Common maskers: "antivaxxers need to be removed from society"

A lot was revealed about the black hearts in the world.

bro comparing wearing masks and taking vaccines to the gassing of jews.  WTF.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, MDC said:

Link

Dafuq 🤦‍♂️ 

Awww. Let me know when they show some outrage about what is said about cops.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Thank you for demonstrating intellectual honesty.

OK you’re welcome but where is your criticism of Musk for not doing the same? First off as I pointed out this statement completely contradicts his earlier assertion that DOGE was going after waste; that has been shown to be a dishonest claim. Second @Mike Honcho is correct: Musk here is implicitly comparing American public sector workers to those who committed grave crimes against humanity, which really is an offensive analogy. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

Unless you are mind reader, you are guessing, you don't know what he was thinking or pointing out when he retweeted that post. And regardless of what his motivations for retweeting it, his repost of it, in conjunction with his current position is making a comparison of US public sector workers to people who carried out some of the most heinous crimes in recorded history.  That in itself makes him unfit to be in a position where he is deciding their worthiness to work for the govt. 

I mean if you're going to accuse Tim of that, you realize that you just assumed Trump was defending Hitler without really knowing what he was thinking or pointing out, right?

Logical adults know exactly what he was talking about and he wasn't defending Hitler. Hysterical and illogical zealots are the ones that are making assumptions here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I mean if you're going to accuse Tim of that, you realize that you just assumed Trump was defending Hitler without really knowing what he was thinking or pointing out, right?

How did you reach the conclusion that I assumed Trump was defending HItler?  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Musk

Sorry, but you are jumping to conclusion that isn't supported by anything I've said.  My comments to Tim are strictly based on what he said based on a retweet with no comments and that he couldn't know what Musks thoughts. I don't see anything from that post that could be used in some transitive sense that Trump was defending Hitler.  Just saying Musk doesn't really cut it. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK you’re welcome but where is your criticism of Musk for not doing the same? First off as I pointed out this statement completely contradicts his earlier assertion that DOGE was going after waste; that has been shown to be a dishonest claim. Second @Mike Honcho is correct: Musk here is implicitly comparing American public sector workers to those who committed grave crimes against humanity, which really is an offensive analogy. 

I don't understand the question.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

Tim, you are reaching out to be diplomatic and rational way, way too far here. Musk is equating federal employees with Nazi death camp guards and genocidal psychopaths, and Musk is absolving Hitler. It's mass disinformation and a sick attempt to engender hatred of federal, state and city workers of all kinds. 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Tim, you are reaching out to be diplomatic and rational way, way too far here. Musk is equating federal employees with Nazi death camp guards and genocidal psychopaths, and Musk is absolving Hitler. It's mass disinformation and a sick attempt to engender hatred of federal, state and city workers of all kinds. 

Endanger? If you haven't noticed, it's your cohorts who are throwing the Molotov cocktails, not the Red Hats.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

no matter how you slice it..pathetic

At least you know yourself. :dunno:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
52 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Tim, you are reaching out to be diplomatic and rational way, way too far here. Musk is equating federal employees with Nazi death camp guards and genocidal psychopaths, and Musk is absolving Hitler. It's mass disinformation and a sick attempt to engender hatred of federal, state and city workers of all kinds. 

I agree with the first part of your criticism, not the second part. He is making an extremely unfair comparison, but not absolving Hitler. (I should add this is only my opinion. @Mike Hunt is correct I don’t know for sure.) 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, MDC said:

Link

Dafuq 🤦‍♂️ 

Is "Dafuq" English for anything other than "I'm a libtard and really really stupid."? 

  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, MDC said:

This is the admin who wants to deport a student for threatening and harassing Jews. 😂 
 

@Reality @RLLD @Voltaire any take? 

We seem to have a dire shortage of genocidal lunatics in our country. :(

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×