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Hitler didn’t murder millions of people, public sector workers did

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Very scary, trump did call Epstein friend.  

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I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

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32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

Thank you for demonstrating intellectual honesty.

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36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

I fully endorse this reasonably objective/non-biased take on the gist of Elon's thought process, if not his words verbatim. 

Very good stuff ✌️

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40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

Unless you are mind reader, you are guessing, you don't know what he was thinking or pointing out when he retweeted that post. And regardless of what his motivations for retweeting it, his repost of it, in conjunction with his current position is making a comparison of US public sector workers to people who carried out some of the most heinous crimes in recorded history.  That in itself makes him unfit to be in a position where he is deciding their worthiness to work for the govt. 

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I'm pretty sick of rationalizing and sane washing deleterious thoughts and statements.

That got us Trump 2.0.  We don't need to keep doing this.

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Covid showed us that Elon is right about this. 

Cops during covid: "just doin muh job"

Hospital workers: "no shot, no organ transplant"

Common maskers: "antivaxxers need to be removed from society"

A lot was revealed about the black hearts in the world.

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1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said:

Covid showed is that Elon is right about this. 

Cops during covid: "just doin muh job"

Hospital workers: "no shot, no heart transplant"

Common maskers: "antivaxxers need to be removed from society"

A lot was revealed about the black hearts in the world.

Something can be factually true and a monumentally stupid thing to say, too.

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4 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Covid showed is that Elon is right about this. 

Cops during covid: "just doin muh job"

Hospital workers: "no shot, no organ transplant"

Common maskers: "antivaxxers need to be removed from society"

A lot was revealed about the black hearts in the world.

bro comparing wearing masks and taking vaccines to the gassing of jews.  WTF.

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2 hours ago, MDC said:

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Dafuq 🤦‍♂️ 

Awww. Let me know when they show some outrage about what is said about cops.  

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Thank you for demonstrating intellectual honesty.

OK you’re welcome but where is your criticism of Musk for not doing the same? First off as I pointed out this statement completely contradicts his earlier assertion that DOGE was going after waste; that has been shown to be a dishonest claim. Second @Mike Honcho is correct: Musk here is implicitly comparing American public sector workers to those who committed grave crimes against humanity, which really is an offensive analogy. 

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1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

Unless you are mind reader, you are guessing, you don't know what he was thinking or pointing out when he retweeted that post. And regardless of what his motivations for retweeting it, his repost of it, in conjunction with his current position is making a comparison of US public sector workers to people who carried out some of the most heinous crimes in recorded history.  That in itself makes him unfit to be in a position where he is deciding their worthiness to work for the govt. 

I mean if you're going to accuse Tim of that, you realize that you just assumed Trump was defending Hitler without really knowing what he was thinking or pointing out, right?

Logical adults know exactly what he was talking about and he wasn't defending Hitler. Hysterical and illogical zealots are the ones that are making assumptions here.

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Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I mean if you're going to accuse Tim of that, you realize that you just assumed Trump was defending Hitler without really knowing what he was thinking or pointing out, right?

How did you reach the conclusion that I assumed Trump was defending HItler?  

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Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Musk

Sorry, but you are jumping to conclusion that isn't supported by anything I've said.  My comments to Tim are strictly based on what he said based on a retweet with no comments and that he couldn't know what Musks thoughts. I don't see anything from that post that could be used in some transitive sense that Trump was defending Hitler.  Just saying Musk doesn't really cut it. 

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44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK you’re welcome but where is your criticism of Musk for not doing the same? First off as I pointed out this statement completely contradicts his earlier assertion that DOGE was going after waste; that has been shown to be a dishonest claim. Second @Mike Honcho is correct: Musk here is implicitly comparing American public sector workers to those who committed grave crimes against humanity, which really is an offensive analogy. 

I don't understand the question.

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually get what he’s saying and he’s not defending Hitler or the Holocaust. He’s pointing out that one man couldn’t have carried it out; it took the German bureaucracy, He is also implying that the larger the state, the more oppressive the state, hence the need for severe cuts to the public sector even beyond the question of waste (which is, prior to this tweet, the main justification Musk has offered for his actions.) 

This is an ideological argument, and from a libertarian standpoint I understand it. But I think it’s misapplied to our society. While our federal government has proven to be wasteful at times, it’s not been oppressive (despite Kafkaesque anecdotes to the contrary). We are not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. 

Tim, you are reaching out to be diplomatic and rational way, way too far here. Musk is equating federal employees with Nazi death camp guards and genocidal psychopaths, and Musk is absolving Hitler. It's mass disinformation and a sick attempt to engender hatred of federal, state and city workers of all kinds. 

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19 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Tim, you are reaching out to be diplomatic and rational way, way too far here. Musk is equating federal employees with Nazi death camp guards and genocidal psychopaths, and Musk is absolving Hitler. It's mass disinformation and a sick attempt to engender hatred of federal, state and city workers of all kinds. 

Endanger? If you haven't noticed, it's your cohorts who are throwing the Molotov cocktails, not the Red Hats.

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20 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

no matter how you slice it..pathetic

At least you know yourself. :dunno:

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52 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Tim, you are reaching out to be diplomatic and rational way, way too far here. Musk is equating federal employees with Nazi death camp guards and genocidal psychopaths, and Musk is absolving Hitler. It's mass disinformation and a sick attempt to engender hatred of federal, state and city workers of all kinds. 

I agree with the first part of your criticism, not the second part. He is making an extremely unfair comparison, but not absolving Hitler. (I should add this is only my opinion. @Mike Hunt is correct I don’t know for sure.) 

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7 hours ago, MDC said:

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Dafuq 🤦‍♂️ 

Is "Dafuq" English for anything other than "I'm a libtard and really really stupid."? 

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10 hours ago, MDC said:

This is the admin who wants to deport a student for threatening and harassing Jews. 😂 
 

@Reality @RLLD @Voltaire any take? 

We seem to have a dire shortage of genocidal lunatics in our country. :(

 

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On 3/14/2025 at 1:06 PM, lickin_starfish said:

Endanger? If you haven't noticed, it's your cohorts who are throwing the Molotov cocktails, not the Red Hats.

Maybe you’re speaking of the bomb threats against Justice Barrett & her sister here,, I don’t know.

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Chalk me up for one who doesnt understand why people do this.  

Do these get taken out of context some and get accused of being Nazi lovers?  Sure. 

But just no need to entertain this.  This was 80 years ago.  Leave it be. There is no need to get involved in this in any way.  

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20 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Maybe you’re speaking of the bomb threats against Justice Barrett & her sister here,, I don’t know.

No. The ACTUAL Molotov bombs thrown at police and into buildings. Thrown by you idiot liberals. Pick up your game Rusty. You are getting old. 

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19 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Maybe you’re speaking of the bomb threats against Justice Barrett & her sister here,, I don’t know.

Lets not get it twisted here.  Pound for pound Libs are much more liable to be violent in protest or action.  Not saying it cant go both ways at times.  But overall?  Libs win that running away.  

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On 3/14/2025 at 1:40 PM, The Real timschochet said:

I agree with the first part of your criticism, not the second part. He is making an extremely unfair comparison, but not absolving Hitler. (I should add this is only my opinion. @Mike Hunt is correct I don’t know for sure.) 

That's interesting, because when Musk says "Hitler didn't murder millions of people" it sounds like Musk is saying Hitler didn't murder millions of people.

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58 minutes ago, jbycho said:

No. The ACTUAL Molotov bombs thrown at police and into buildings. Thrown by you idiot liberals. ...

Ok, I took it as he meant a specific incident.

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3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

That's interesting, because when Musk says "Hitler didn't murder millions of people" it sounds like Musk is saying Hitler didn't murder millions of people.

Well, if you want to play dumb that's EXACTLY what you would think.  Or you could think like a logical adult and kind of get that he meant that Hitler had help from a whole host of people that killed all those Jews.

Did you really think Hitler killed 6 million jews by himself?  Like, literally turned on the ovens in all the concentration camps?

When you play stupid you're easily led and get easily hysterical.  Be better.

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