Trump vacates Biden's pardons

[Sean Mooney 1,901]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Check my thread on liberal sources. Anonymous sources have been much more forthright and prudent with their information that your sources.

Also, Trump isn't an anonymous source. Jeez. It's like we are living in two separate realities.

Who are my sources? Why do you people do this stuff? You make up an argument to rail against that isn't rooted in fact and just continue on with it.

Also- I doubt Trump has any clue what was happening in the Biden presidency. Additionally, Trump regularly lies. He isn't a paragon of virtue. But it works because people like you are ready to suck up whatever he spills. 

[Sean Mooney 1,901]

1 minute ago, HB Localboy said:

President Trump isn't an "anonymous source", you dimwitted dolt! 

He is quoting stuff that came from anonymous sources. He also isn't truthful most of the time. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,470]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

He also isn't truthful most of the time. 

You can literally say that about every single politician, past, present, and future.

I know, I know, TrUmP dOeS iT mOrE!!!

[Frozenbeernuts 2,038]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

If we ever get evidence that Biden cognitively impaired to the point people were passing stuff by him without approval- yes that would be a concern.

But I don't necessarily put a ton of stock in back biting weasels from his Presidency who are now trying to do everything they can to kick dirt on him because they lost so decisively in 2024. There are a lot of conditional statements in your post but you are fine with immediately jumping to the conclusions. 

Why are you waiting for some liberal to confirm what your eyes and ears could have perceived on their own? How many times did we point out, before Biden was ever elected, that he was cognitively unfit to hold office? This has been going on for years.

[Sean Mooney 1,901]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

You can literally say that about every single politician, past, present, and future.

I know, I know, TrUmP dOeS iT mOrE!!!

I don't know that he does it more or not. But at least you seemingly agree that a politician may not be truthful meaning they might not be the best source for information. 

Just now, Frozenbeernuts said:

Why are you waiting for some liberal to confirm what your eyes and ears could have perceived on their own? How many times did we point out, before Biden was ever elected, that he was cognitively unfit to hold office? This has been going on for years.

Do you apply the same reasoning when Trump does something and an "anonymous source" reports on it?

[shadrap 204]

it's obvious at this point that Biden was not running the Country.  We've been lied to & duped.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,038]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

I don't know that he does it more or not. But at least you seemingly agree that a politician may not be truthful meaning they might not be the best source for information. 

Do you apply the same reasoning when Trump does something and an "anonymous source" reports on it?

What if a judge freed them on bail and had them dropped off at your house?

[TBayXXXVII 2,470]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

I don't know that he does it more or not. But at least you seemingly agree that a politician may not be truthful meaning they might not be the best source for information. 

I do, in fact I think that 90% of the time, politicians are lying... or at least not telling the whole truth and/or purposefully misleading us.  I also know that Democrats don't feel that way about their side.  I know this because the leftist media never calls out the Democrats to the extent that Trump or Republican's do.  When a Democrat lies, they'll say, "I think Joe got that one wrong", and then literally move on to the next topic and done.  If Trump misspeaks, he's called a liar ad nauseum or any one of many names.  That same rhetoric is followed on this board, by our liberal brethren.

[The Real timschochet 6,157]

Just as in his first term: Trump tweets something outrageous in the middle of the night, which will never fly. His opponents go crazy, his defenders love it (mostly to troll the libs.) 

In the end it means nothing. The pardons aren’t going to be overturned. Trump Will ultimately be judged not by any of this crap he says, but by what happens. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,038]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Just as in his first term: Trump tweets something outrageous in the middle of the night, which will never fly. His opponents go crazy, his defenders love it (mostly to troll the libs.) 

In the end it means nothing. The pardons aren’t going to be overturned. Trump Will ultimately be judged not by any of this crap he says, but by what happens. 

I'm sure this isn't related at all to Trump signing documents on camera. No way his team was already aware of this. No way that this was actually mentioned months ago by sources. Your source didn't clue you in, so this is a shock to you.

[Sean Mooney 1,901]

18 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

What if a judge freed them on bail and had them dropped off at your house?

The autopen? I mean I'm not sure there are enough people wanting my autograph that I couldn't just sign things but I'll take it. Maybe I can sell it on eBay or something

[Sean Mooney 1,901]

16 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I do, in fact I think that 90% of the time, politicians are lying... or at least not telling the whole truth and/or purposefully misleading us.  I also know that Democrats don't feel that way about their side.  I know this because the leftist media never calls out the Democrats to the extent that Trump or Republican's do.  When a Democrat lies, they'll say, "I think Joe got that one wrong", and then literally move on to the next topic and done.  If Trump misspeaks, he's called a liar ad nauseum or any one of many names.  That same rhetoric is followed on this board, by our liberal brethren.

I tend to think the media also is complicit in whitewashing some of the more crazy things Trump says but that is getting into our individual perceptions of the media and that's near impossible to argue.

I'll gladly accept and stop at the fact that we agree politicians are pretty much stinkin' liars and thus should not necessarily be trusted as some reliable source on anything. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,654]

Liz Cheney having her head shaved as she gets frog walked to El Salvador prison is going to be an epic visual.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,470]

31 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I tend to think the media also is complicit in whitewashing some of the more crazy things Trump says but that is getting into our individual perceptions of the media and that's near impossible to argue.

I'll gladly accept and stop at the fact that we agree politicians are pretty much stinkin' liars and thus should not necessarily be trusted as some reliable source on anything. 

Yeah, I don't think there is a single politician... and I'll go a step further, or media outlet, that is truly reliable.

[The Real timschochet 6,157]

Just want to remind you guys that this is the same man (Trump) who insisted that documents could be declassified simply by thinking about them. 

[jbycho 484]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Just want to remind you guys that this is the same man (Trump) who insisted that documents could be declassified simply by thinking about them. 

Yeah. You "reminded" everyone while you were out at dinner at you local del.taco yesterday. 

[HB Localboy 110]

16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Just want to remind you guys that this is the same man (Trump) who insisted that documents could be declassified simply by thinking about them. 

The President has the ability to declassified anything on the moment.  So, YES, Trump can declassify any document he wants at any time! 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,790]

Will be So good to see Liz Cheney get perp walked. Looking forward to her mug shot.  

[HellToupee 1,513]

Round them all up and hold them like the J6ers until a decision can be made on what to do. Every last one of them

[TBayXXXVII 2,470]

21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Just want to remind you guys that this is the same man (Trump) who insisted that documents could be declassified simply by thinking about them. 

At least this same man (Trump), is actually able to think.  The last one couldn't.

[Ron_Artest 997]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

At least this same man (Trump), is actually able to think.  The last one couldn't.

Think?  The late night Biden pardon void post took thought?

[squistion 1,872]

4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

A president can't void another presidents pardons guys.  Hate to break it to you but this is America not Russia.

They obviously hope that Trump can act like Putin, but we haven't got to that point yet, or at least one would hope not.

[HB Localboy 110]

Just now, squistion said:

They obviously hope that Trump can act like Putin, but we haven't got to that point yet, or at least one would hope not.

If they weren't signed by Biden they are null and void, dolt! 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,790]

Biden didn’t know that he had halted sales of liquid natural gas to Europe. Kind of a big deal. 

[squistion 1,872]

Just now, HB Localboy said:

If they weren't signed by Biden they are null and void, dolt! 

I am sure Biden will make a public statement and verify that he indeed signed them. 

[HB Localboy 110]

Just now, squistion said:

I am sure Biden will make a public statement and verify that he indeed signed them. 

He can't remember what he ate for breakfast this morning, how is he going to remember something that didn't happened three months ago?

 

YOU ARE A DIMWITTED LOSER! 

[TheNewGirl 1,306]

Funny that I posted about autopen last week and I got, "This is what you're worried about?" 

When it seems that nearly MOST of what Biden signed may have been autopen. 

Quote

 

“We gathered every document we could find with Biden’s signature over the course of his presidency,” the Oversight Project said last week.

“All used the same autopen signature except for the announcement that the former president was dropping out of the race last year.”

The Oversight Project showed two samples of Mr. Biden’s signatures from separate executive orders that it gathered came from autopen and contrasted that with an image of his signature on the letter announcing he was withdrawing from the 2024 presidential election.

His signature on the two executive orders appears identical, while the signature on the letter about leaving the 2024 election had some differences. That included the lack of a “Jr.” at the end of his name because he signed it only as “J.R. Biden.”

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/mar/11/joe-bidens-use-autopen-official-documents-raises-questions-critics/

[squistion 1,872]

2 minutes ago, HB Localboy said:

He can't remember what he ate for breakfast this morning, how is he going to remember something that didn't happened three months ago?

YOU ARE A DIMWITTED LOSER! 

If you keep insulting me like that I will put you on ignore.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,790]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

I am sure Biden will make a public statement and verify that he indeed signed them. 

This idiot thinks there’s no difference between an auto pen and an actual signature. I’m surprised you can tie your own shoes. 

[Strike 5,101]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

This idiot thinks there’s no difference between an auto pen and an actual signature. I’m surprised you can tie your own shoes. 

How do you know he can?  He might wear sketchers or Velcro tape shoes.

[Ron_Artest 997]

3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Funny that I posted about autopen last week and I got, "This is what you're worried about?" 

When it seems that nearly MOST of what Biden signed may have been autopen. 

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/mar/11/joe-bidens-use-autopen-official-documents-raises-questions-critics/

It's as much bullshït today as when you posted it last week.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,790]

Just now, Strike said:

How do you know he can?  He might wear sketchers or Velcro tape shoes.

He’s probably like those losers I see at the convenience store in their pajamas wearing crocs. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,683]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Biden didn’t know that he had halted sales of liquid natural gas to Europe. Kind of a big deal. 

  TRUTH

PRESIDENT HUNTER BIDEN DID THOUGH  

[squistion 1,872]

 

https://x.com/MichaelSteele/status/1901636804534579685

Bullsh!t. The mechanism of signature does not matter. That has already been tested in the courts. “Last year, a federal appeals court said presidential pardons do not even have to be in writing.” 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,654]

27 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

https://x.com/MichaelSteele/status/1901636804534579685

Bullsh!t. The mechanism of signature does not matter. That has already been tested in the courts. “Last year, a federal appeals court said presidential pardons do not even have to be in writing.” 

Activists judges.  Let’s see what Supreme Court says.  Steele is another salty anti Trumper.  

[squistion 1,872]

Hey, MAGA folks...

Do you think do that Trump manually signed those 1,500+ Jan 6 pardons? 

[Baker Boy 1,681]

What Is Not Allowed (or Controversial) for Autopen Use

Certain presidential actions involve unique constitutional powers that some argue require the president’s personal involvement, raising questions about whether an autopen is appropriate. Examples include:

 

Pardons and Clemency: The power to grant pardons is vested solely in the president under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, which states the president “shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States.” Because this is a discretionary act tied to the president’s individual judgment, critics contend that using an autopen could undermine its legitimacy if the president didn’t personally review or approve each case. There’s no explicit legal prohibition, but the lack of a personal signature might invite challenges to the intent behind the pardon.

Executive Orders (Without Clear Authorization): Executive orders direct federal agencies and carry the force of law, reflecting the president’s Article II authority to manage the executive branch. While autop signatures have been used for executive orders, some legal scholars argue that if the president is unaware of or uninvolved in the issuance—say, due to cognitive decline or delegation to staff—the order’s validity could be questioned. The Constitution doesn’t mandate a handwritten signature, but the perception of presidential control is key.

Treaty Ratifications: Ratifying treaties under Article II, Section 2 requires the president’s personal engagement after Senate approval. While the physical act of signing might technically be delegated, any suggestion that an autopen was used without the president’s direct knowledge could cast doubt on the process, though this hasn’t been tested in court.

https://www.michaelrcronin.com/post/presidential-use-of-the-autopen#google_vignette

[Hardcore troubadour 14,790]

[Ron_Artest 997]

It's on the internet so it must be true 

You idiots are so gullible.

 

[HB Localboy 110]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

Hey, MAGA folks...

Do you think do that Trump manually signed those 1,500+ Jan 6 pardons? 

All of the names were on one executive order so he only needed one signature, you dimwitted monkey!