Trump defies the courts, Sends migrants to El Sal Prison

[Maximum Overkill 1,713]

2 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

 

Pedocrats are scumbags. 

She's amazing, love her  

[Reality 3,083]

9 hours ago, shorepatrol said:

These sh!t hills you clowns decide to die on is predictable and why you are dismissed. It's over. Fock off. Thanks 

 

Nailed it.

[TimHauck 2,576]

1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

 

Cop that filed the report was suspended less than 1 week after it was filed, and later pled guilty to giving information to a prostitute he was paying for sex.  The claim of him being in a gang was based on a criminal informant.

Also, “two courts” did not find the evidence of him being in a gang as credible.  One did, the second simply said he didn’t “prove that he wasn’t a danger.”

HTH

[TimHauck 2,576]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

 

She's amazing, love her  

Leavitt admitted he was deported due to a clerical error.

[Maximum Overkill 1,713]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Leavitt admitted he was deported due to a clerical error.

Still not an American Citizen. Bye 

[TimHauck 2,576]

5 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Still not an American Citizen. Bye 

I’m fine with saying bye to him. I’m not fine with sending him to prison potentially for life.

[Maximum Overkill 1,713]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I’m fine with saying bye to him. I’m not fine with sending him to prison potentially for life.

I don't care. I have more important things to worry about. Illegal Aliens isn't one of them. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,861]

Court documents show that besides being a ranking member in MS -13, this illegal also violently beat his wife on numerous occasions. Good riddance. 

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Given the Trump Admin’s lack of professionalism and history of lying and fock ups, I think a court should get involved. You can’t take Dirtbag Don’s word for anything.

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23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Court documents show that besides being a ranking member in MS -13, this illegal also violently beat his wife on numerous occasions. Good riddance. 

Thank God there are great Democratic Senators to go to El Salvador on tax payer money & fight for this non citizens wife abusing behalf.

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9 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Who gets to decide which laws are moral and immoral? That's the problem.

The human brain can rationalize anything.

Tim does, of course.  Which goes back to my original point and proves it.

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Republicans acting like abusing women is now objectionable to them.  

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16 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Thank God there are great Democratic Senators to go to El Salvador on tax payer money & fight for this non citizens wife abusing behalf.

His wife wants him back though.  So you good with sending Pete Hegseth to prison in El Salvador too? He’s been accused of worse than this guy.

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25 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Republicans acting like abusing women is now objectionable to them.  

Forget to take your meds this morning?

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Just now, CaptainObvious1 said:

Forget to take your meds this morning?

You voted for a sexual abuser to be our president.

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9 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

Forget to take your meds this morning?

The liberals in power pay him a penny a post. He's got to turn and burn if he wants to eat tonight. 

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12 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Him being a gang member hinges on the report of a dirty cop who got suspended less than 1 week after the report was filed for giving case information to a prostitute he was paying for sex.  And even that report was based solely on the word of a criminal informant and a Chicago Bulls hat:

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

https://newrepublic.com/article/194010/kilmar-abrego-garcia-case-trump-deported-error-another-hit

There was new information that came out about claims his wife made alleging domestic violence, but they were never followed through on: 

https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1912567112733753563

In addition, he was apparently pulled over in 2022 “on suspicion of human trafficking,” but little details are given:

https://tennesseestar.com/justice/bidens-fbi-ordered-tn-highway-patrol-to-release-maryland-man-recently-deported-to-el-salvador-after-he-was-detained-in-2022-traffic-stop-on-suspicion-of-human-trafficking/tpappert/2025/04/16/

 

 

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To support this claim, ICE relied on what’s known as a Gang Field Interview Sheet, supplied by the Prince George’s County police. It claimed that Abrego Garcia wore a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie, that this was evidence of membership in MS-13, and that a “confidential source” had related that he was a member of the gang’s Westerns clique. But that operates in New York, where he never lived.

That's some hard evidence. 

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Trump accidentally deports a guy through an administrative error who just so happens to be an M-13  gang member … what are the odds?  

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51 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

That's some hard evidence. 

I like how they said source instead of informant. 

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Never thought the left would go with the mid term strategy of bring our illegals back. 

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Did Michelle ever get “our” girls back? 

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2 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

You voted for a sexual abuser to be our president.

I voted for you?  News to me

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Pam Bondi’s latest excuse for refusing to bring back a mistakenly deported Maryland dad is that his wife and disabled child—who have begged for his release—are better off without him.

“America is safer because he is gone. Maryland is safer because he is gone. And that woman that he is married to and that child he had with her? They are safer tonight because he is out of our country and sitting in El Salvador where he belongs,” President Donald Trump’s attorney general said Wednesday of Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

These people have no soul.

[TimHauck 2,576]

4 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I don't care. I have more important things to worry about. Illegal Aliens isn't one of them. 

Like trannies apparently 

[SaintsInDome2006 343]

40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Did Michelle ever get “our” girls back? 

The US and Nigerian military & diplomatic staff have gradually recovered more than half the kidnapped girls.

Pres. Trump received two of the freed girls in the Oval Office.

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5 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I strongly disagree that this is a “political loser” for Democrats.  I have seen quite a few Republicans condemn this action by the government, and zero Democrats defend it.

And for a lot of the centrists like myself and Republicans that are against it, it’s not really about whether or not he was a “good guy.”  It’s about the precedent this sets of not following the Supreme Court, and the apparent ability to “accidentally” deport whoever they feel like, then saying “sorry, out of our hands now” once they’re out of the country.

Even if he is a “bad guy,” unless he killed someone or something his alleged “crimes” don’t deserve potential life in prison.  At this point the best scenario for him is to simply be released from the El Salvador prison, because god knows what we’d do with him if they did send him back here.  I have not seen any justification for El Salvador to keep him in prison.  Heck our current Secretary of Defense has been “accused” of worse than this guy, can we send him to this prison too?  

There is certainly more information that can come out that can make the government look bad.  For one, that the cop who filed the report that the entire claim of him being MS-13 was based on is dirty, which is a documented fact.  And then if it comes out that the guy is dead or something, I bet many people with a heart will think hey maybe coming here illegally shouldn’t be punishable by death.  Of course I know some Republicans don’t fit that description though.  And let’s be real, many people that constantly bring up Laken Riley or Rachel Morin don’t really care about them, they care about using them for political theater and to to try to make all immigrants look bad.  

I'm good with a differing opinion all the way to where you dismiss out of hand as political theater the discussion of murdered citizens while you think this is good politics for a sitting US Senator to literally carry a film crew with him to El Salvador.  That's kind of an interesting take.  But if you think it's good politics, you won't get any pushback from anyone on the Trump side of this.  Have at it.

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4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

The US and Nigerian military & diplomatic staff have gradually recovered more than half the kidnapped girls.

Pres. Trump received two of the freed girls in the Oval Office.

Sucks for the other half. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sucks for the other half. 

Yes it does, but it's just one example of the good America does in the world.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,861]

So yeah, this guy isn’t MS-13. He’s just always with them when the police stop them. 

[SaintsInDome2006 343]

He's a terrorist, he's not a terrorist, he's a gangbanger, he's a gang victim, he's a father, he's a wifebeater, he has gang tattoos, those tattoos are meaningless...

If only there was some way for an independent fact finder to review the evidence in public and make some sort of determination to ensure the law was being followed according to a process that each person subjected to the law would be due. I dunno, man, has anyone thought of a way of doing that?

[TimHauck 2,576]

6 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

I'm good with a differing opinion all the way to where you dismiss out of hand as political theater the discussion of murdered citizens while you think this is good politics for a sitting US Senator to literally carry a film crew with him to El Salvador.  That's kind of an interesting take.  But if you think it's good politics, you won't get any pushback from anyone on the Trump side of this.  Have at it.

The discussion of murdered citizens is irrelevant to the Abrego Garcia case and only stokes division.

I’d call Van Hollen’s actions grandstanding, but not political theater.  At least he was trying to get something accomplished.

Did you condemn the “Epstein binder” photo shoot that contained no new information or Kristin Noem taking Libs of TikTok to “arrest” people? 

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8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The discussion of murdered citizens is irrelevant to the Abrego Garcia case and only stokes division.

I’d call Van Hollen’s actions grandstanding, but not political theater.  At least he was trying to get something accomplished.

Did you condemn the “Epstein binder” photo shoot that contained no new information or Kristin Noem taking Libs of TikTok to “arrest” people? 

No he wasn't trying to get anything accomplished.  He had 0% chance of accomplishing anything.  It was purely a photoshoot at taxpayers expense.  Meanwhile, he has never even reached out to the family of one of his constituents who was murdered by an illegal.

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The discussion of murdered citizens is irrelevant to the Abrego Garcia case and only stokes division.

I’d call Van Hollen’s actions grandstanding, but not political theater.  At least he was trying to get something accomplished.

Did you condemn the “Epstein binder” photo shoot that contained no new information or Kristin Noem taking Libs of TikTok to “arrest” people? 

Only that it's not irrelevant.  Garcia was here because we didn't enforce our borders, those two specific women are dead for the same reason, their killers came in over that border.  

I'm fine with political theater, grandstanding, butt slapping, whatever label you want to call it, if you are.  Or really, because neither of us have a choice.  It's simply our political reality today.  Van Hollen can do what he wants, I didn't condemn him, even though I don't think it was smart.  But let's not pretend one party does these things and the other doesn't.  I don't think I'd choose murder victims as my first call-out for it though.

[SaintsInDome2006 343]

The Trump administration is paying the Salvadoran government $6 million to house migrants there.

We, the US, are paying El Salvador $6 million to hold roughly 250 prisoners.

All arguments as to morality and the Constitution aside - why wouldn't we keep them in the US for much cheaper?

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2 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Only that it's not irrelevant.  Garcia was here because we didn't enforce our borders, those two specific women are dead for the same reason, their killers came in over that border.  

I'm fine with political theater, grandstanding, butt slapping, whatever label you want to call it, if you are.  Or really, because neither of us have a choice.  It's simply our political reality today.  Van Hollen can do what he wants, I didn't condemn him, even though I don't think it was smart.  But let's not pretend one party does these things and the other doesn't.  I don't think I'd choose murder victims as my first call-out for it though.

I feel like I can’t see a White House press conference without Riley Gaines or some grifter “influencer” standing in the background, the current administration definitely does it more than the last one.

[HellToupee 1,570]

We’re housing bad hombres in NYC hotels at top dollar but now we’re concerned about costs. Hilarious 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,861]

3 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

You voted for a sexual abuser to be our president.

So did you.

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13 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

We’re housing bad hombres in NYC hotels at top dollar but now we’re concerned about costs. Hilarious 

This is actually a good point. The story on NYC reported that the Roosevelt hotel, a luxury hotel was putting up roughly 2,000 aliens at $75,000.00 per month. So roughly $37.50 per person, or $450 per person per year.

This El Salvador prison is costing $6,000,000 for 250 persons at $24,000.00 per person.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This is actually a good point. The story on NYC reported that the Roosevelt hotel, a luxury hotel was putting up roughly 2,000 aliens at $75,000.00 per month. So roughly $37.50 per person, or $450 per person per year.

This El Salvador prison is costing $6,000,000 for 250 persons at $24,000.00 per person.

Your numbers aren’t close. You just making stuff up now? 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Your numbers aren’t close. You just making stuff up now? 

If only there was some way you could provide the correct information.