Frozenbeernuts 2,038 Posted March 17 You guys have been royally screwed over by your sources. They are not feeding you accurate information, and their predictions suck. Maybe you should find some better ones. The auto pen thing is a big deal. Expect to see the pardons fail to protect the criminals. Why wouldn't you want to see criminals who committed crimes at the highest level brought to justice anyway? Just because Trump wants them prosecuted, you would rather see them go free as an FU to Trump? Come on. Leave your TDS at the door for a few minutes each day. It will probably lengthen your life span. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,025 Posted March 17 I had never once heard the phrase “auto pen” in all of my years. I’m familiar with e-signatures, Adobe signatures, notaries etc. but never heard of an auto pen and had to look it up to find out that it’s a machine that reproduces signatures. Apparently everyone here already knew what an AP is and whether it’s legal to sign with one. Bunch of armchair legal scholars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HB Localboy 110 Posted March 17 Libtard Sources = FAKE NEWS and LIARS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,757 Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, MDC said: I had never once heard the phrase “auto pen” in all of my years. I’m familiar with e-signatures, Adobe signatures, notaries etc. but never heard of an auto pen and had to look it up to find out that it’s a machine that reproduces signatures. Apparently everyone here already knew what an AP is and whether it’s legal to sign with one. Bunch of armchair legal scholars. I also had never heard of AP until yesterday. Sounds very suspicious and ripe for abuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,904 Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, MDC said: I had never once heard the phrase “auto pen” in all of my years. I’m familiar with e-signatures, Adobe signatures, notaries etc. but never heard of an auto pen and had to look it up to find out that it’s a machine that reproduces signatures. Apparently everyone here already knew what an AP is and whether it’s legal to sign with one. Bunch of armchair legal scholars. Celebs will use it sometimes at autograph signings and stuff like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,038 Posted March 17 27 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Celebs will use it sometimes at autograph signings and stuff like that. That sounds like a great use. Celebrities who are too lazy to sign their own merch. Fortunately for the good guys, it was also used by a regime too crooked to involve the president in presidential affairs. Win. Ning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,904 Posted March 17 6 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: That sounds like a great use. Celebrities who are too lazy to sign their own merch. Fortunately for the good guys, it was also used by a regime too crooked to involve the president in presidential affairs. Win. Ning. According to "anonymous sources" again.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 485 Posted March 17 36 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Celebs will use it sometimes at autograph signings and stuff like that. Sean mooney. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,402 Posted March 17 Purple haired trans unverified x accounts of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,876 Posted March 17 3 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: You guys have been royally screwed over by your sources. They are not feeding you accurate information, and their predictions suck. Maybe you should find some better ones. The auto pen thing is a big deal. Expect to see the pardons fail to protect the criminals. Why wouldn't you want to see criminals who committed crimes at the highest level brought to justice anyway? Just because Trump wants them prosecuted, you would rather see them go free as an FU to Trump? Come on. Leave your TDS at the door for a few minutes each day. It will probably lengthen your life span. Um, no it isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,160 Posted March 17 This thread was started by a guy who believes that the Jews were behind 9/11. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,681 Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, squistion said: Um, no it isn't. Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see! - John Lennon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,581 Posted March 17 The autopen is a non-story…. Presidents have used that for a while now…. So an autopen might have been used on the pardons, whoop-dee-do…. When doing that many, use the tool that is available for use…. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,657 Posted March 17 6 minutes ago, posty said: The autopen is a non-story…. Presidents have used that for a while now…. So an autopen might have been used on the pardons, whoop-dee-do…. When doing that many, use the tool that is available for use…. Auto pen was used on every single instance during the illegitimate Biden Regime (except the surrender to palace coup). Why? That has never been the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,025 Posted March 17 I’m guessing Don saw something about the auto pen on X or whatever and immediately made his pronouncement. That’s the sort of thoughtful leadership we get from that clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,211 Posted March 17 3 hours ago, MDC said: I had never once heard the phrase “auto pen” in all of my years. I’m familiar with e-signatures, Adobe signatures, notaries etc. but never heard of an auto pen and had to look it up to find out that it’s a machine that reproduces signatures. Apparently everyone here already knew what an AP is and whether it’s legal to sign with one. Bunch of armchair legal scholars. Just like nobody ever heard of USAID til Trump started dismantling the garbage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,474 Posted March 17 Fellas, let's be kind here. Our Leftie buddies don't like being reminded that they were gaslit for the entirety of the Biden... whatever you call those four years. After all, they are the party of smartz! It's kinda embarrassing. They don't mind not knowing who was running the country all that time, as long as it wasn't Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,681 Posted March 17 19 minutes ago, posty said: The autopen is a non-story…. Presidents have used that for a while now…. So an autopen might have been used on the pardons, whoop-dee-do…. When doing that many, use the tool that is available for use…. 7 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m guessing Don saw something about the auto pen on X or whatever and immediately made his pronouncement. That’s the sort of thoughtful leadership we get from that clown. What Is Not Allowed (or Controversial) for Autopen Use Certain presidential actions involve unique constitutional powers that some argue require the president’s personal involvement, raising questions about whether an autopen is appropriate. Examples include: Pardons and Clemency: The power to grant pardons is vested solely in the president under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, which states the president “shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States.” Because this is a discretionary act tied to the president’s individual judgment, critics contend that using an autopen could undermine its legitimacy if the president didn’t personally review or approve each case. There’s no explicit legal prohibition, but the lack of a personal signature might invite challenges to the intent behind the pardon. Executive Orders (Without Clear Authorization): Executive orders direct federal agencies and carry the force of law, reflecting the president’s Article II authority to manage the executive branch. While autop signatures have been used for executive orders, some legal scholars argue that if the president is unaware of or uninvolved in the issuance—say, due to cognitive decline or delegation to staff—the order’s validity could be questioned. The Constitution doesn’t mandate a handwritten signature, but the perception of presidential control is key. Treaty Ratifications: Ratifying treaties under Article II, Section 2 requires the president’s personal engagement after Senate approval. While the physical act of signing might technically be delegated, any suggestion that an autopen was used without the president’s direct knowledge could cast doubt on the process, though this hasn’t been tested in court. https://www.michaelrcronin.com/post/presidential-use-of-the-autopen#google_vignette Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,038 Posted March 17 45 minutes ago, squistion said: Um, no it isn't. Oh little squishy. If only you knew 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,129 Posted March 17 The OP wrongly judging others, shame. Judgement should only be taken place in righteousness by a righteous person, the OP is not righteous nor judges in righteousness. Amen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,751 Posted March 17 4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: Celebs will use it sometimes at autograph signings and stuff like that. You still getting paid to change diapers? Or has the gig dried up for you? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,129 Posted March 17 27 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: You still getting paid to change diapers? Or has the gig dried up for you? Very pedero post. You always seem to talk about children Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,681 Posted March 17 44 minutes ago, weepaws said: The OP wrongly judging others, shame. Judgement should only be taken place in righteousness by a righteous person, the OP is not righteous nor judges in righteousness. Amen Weepaws says as he wrongly judges the OP. Matthew 7:1 “Judge not that ye be not judged” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,129 Posted March 17 29 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Weepaws says as he wrongly judges the OP. Matthew 7:1 “Judge not that ye be not judged” Matthew 7:2. For with what you judgement you judge, you shall be judged. I judge in the righteousness of Jesus, so I will be judged in that matter. Lets not forget what 1 Corinthians 2:15 says, let’s review it now, shall we. Fool. 2 Corinthians 2:15. But He who is Spiritual judges all things, yet He Himself is not judged by anyone. See there, I walk with Jesus, yet I judge in the righteousness of Jesus, you walk with satan, so you don’t. So I’ll be judged for judging in the name of Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, you not so much. Shame. Indeed Amen Thanks let me know how I can help you understand the Bible more going forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,514 Posted March 17 13 minutes ago, weepaws said: Matthew 7:2. For with what you judgement you judge, you shall be judged. I judge in the righteousness of Jesus, so I will be judged in that matter. Lets not forget what 1 Corinthians 2:15 says, let’s review it now, shall we. Fool. 2 Corinthians 2:15. But He who is Spiritual judges all things, yet He Himself is not judged by anyone. See there, I walk with Jesus, yet I judge in the righteousness of Jesus, you walk with satan, so you don’t. So I’ll be judged for judging in the name of Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, you not so much. Shame. Indeed Amen Thanks let me know how I can help you understand the Bible more going forward. That’s not very Christianl-ike of you weepy. Push comes to shove you might find yourself on the elevator going down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,687 Posted March 17 What's worse, being a Liberal or admitting it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,645 Posted March 17 8 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: You guys have been royally screwed over by your sources. They are not feeding you accurate information, and their predictions suck. Maybe you should find some better ones. The auto pen thing is a big deal. Expect to see the pardons fail to protect the criminals. Why wouldn't you want to see criminals who committed crimes at the highest level brought to justice anyway? Just because Trump wants them prosecuted, you would rather see them go free as an FU to Trump? Come on. Leave your TDS at the door for a few minutes each day. It will probably lengthen your life span. They should rely on just X Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,129 Posted March 17 2 hours ago, HellToupee said: That’s not very Christianl-ike of you weepy. Push comes to shove you might find yourself on the elevator going down No push, no shove, you keep putting Jesus in a box. Shame. Full Assurance through the Blood, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, not going to heaven is very difficult, going to Hell is very difficult, only a fool would choose Hell Fire, Which one have you chosen, is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior? Assurance through Faith into the Kingdom of God Through the Blood and resurrection of Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior. John 3:16 1 John 5:13 Romans 8:16 2 Timothy 1:12. Im sure you can find that Bible you own in the garage, trying reading it, and learn the truth. Indeed Amen Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,751 Posted March 17 3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: What's worse, being a Liberal or admitting it? Dang. That could put philosophers in a tangled mental state for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 229 Posted March 17 6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: This thread was started by a guy who believes that the Jews were behind 9/11. Does he seriously believe that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,514 Posted March 17 1 hour ago, weepaws said: No push, no shove, you keep putting Jesus in a box. Shame. Full Assurance through the Blood, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, not going to heaven is very difficult, going to Hell is very difficult, only a fool would choose Hell Fire, Which one have you chosen, is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior? Assurance through Faith into the Kingdom of God Through the Blood and resurrection of Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior. John 3:16 1 John 5:13 Romans 8:16 2 Timothy 1:12. Im sure you can find that Bible you own in the garage, trying reading it, and learn the truth. Indeed Amen Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,751 Posted March 17 9 minutes ago, Tebok said: Does he seriously believe that? Pimpledoosh bonding with timmy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,681 Posted March 17 4 hours ago, weepaws said: Matthew 7:2. For with what you judgement you judge, you shall be judged. I judge in the righteousness of Jesus, so I will be judged in that matter. Lets not forget what 1 Corinthians 2:15 says, let’s review it now, shall we. Fool. 2 Corinthians 2:15. But He who is Spiritual judges all things, yet He Himself is not judged by anyone. See there, I walk with Jesus, yet I judge in the righteousness of Jesus, you walk with satan, so you don’t. So I’ll be judged for judging in the name of Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, you not so much. Shame. Indeed Amen Thanks let me know how I can help you understand the Bible more going forward. Matthew 23 1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. 5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 229 Posted March 17 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Pimpledoosh bonding with timmy. What is this pimpledoosh nonsense? You seem obsessed over him. Show us on the doll where he touched you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,751 Posted March 17 Just now, Tebok said: What is this pimpledoosh nonsense? You seem obsessed over him. Show us on the doll where he touched you. You never touched me anywhere pimpledoosh. I just laugh at you from afar. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,038 Posted March 18 Just to make sure I'm clear on this Liberals are ok with removing free speech when someone was telling the truth about covid. They are not ok with sending illegal gang bangers out of the country when it never violated any law. They would even go so far as to send a plane to get them and bring them back into our country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,869 Posted March 18 9 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: What's worse, being a Liberal or admitting it? They are embarrassed to admit it. That's why they claim to be centrists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites