Pete Hegseth texted war plans to a reporter by accident

[HellToupee 1,512]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

White House released a statement saying no classified material was on the text thread. 

End of story 

[HellToupee 1,512]

9 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Fire Hegseth and replace him with someone even more MAGA.  The juice is not worth the squeeze.  

No no no not sweet meat Pete. Fire Waltz, he added Goldstein 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,651]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

No no no not sweet meat Pete. Fire Waltz, he added Goldstein 

I’m cool with that. I just don’t want the skyscreamers getting off the mat.  

[HotRod 65]

This line that there was no classified information in the group chat is not going to end well.  If it's true they should just release the full group chat but they're stalling.

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3 hours ago, jonmx said:

And yet no damage was done and the mission went off successfully.  The whole purpose of classifying information is to protect information which could cause harm.  This information did not cause any harm.

I drove home wasted last night at high speeds and successfully avoided police detection and fatalities. ALL GOOD!

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White House released a statement saying no classified material was on the text thread. 

And if you believe that, I got a bridge I want to sell you.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,782]

20 minutes ago, squistion said:

And if you believe that, I got a bridge I want to sell you.

I am only going off what they have said, unlike others in this thread that dishonestly claimed the WH confirmed there was confidential info in the text. The government has been lying to us my whole life.  So sure it could be true that they are now.  Not the point.  

[jonmx 2,418]

56 minutes ago, HotRod said:

This line that there was no classified information in the group chat is not going to end well.  If it's true they should just release the full group chat but they're stalling.

Doesn't the reporter have the conversation?  

[HB Localboy 110]

The time to start arresting DEMON RATS for domestic terrorism and treason was YESTERDAY!

 

LOCK THEM UP!

LOCK THEM UP!

LOCK THEM UP!

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1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

End of story 

Trump declassified it in his head.  All is good!

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3 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Signal isn’t an authorized medium for TS/SCI, period, & this discussion was above even that level. This was SCIF material no matter how you slice it. But it gets worse, Witkoff was in Moscow while doing this. And they discuss a meeting at the president’s country club, also completely reckless. And people were on the ‘chat’ who had no business in the discussion, not just Goldberg. 

The white house said there was no classified material discussed.  The incident is being investigated.  So any declaration on your part about it being 'SCIF' material is just made up speculation.   

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4 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Trump declassified it in his head.  All is good!

The President does have that authority.   The President is the ultimate authority on what is classified and the method he uses to declassify material is not covered.  The president delegates to department heads the classification of material related to their department.   The idea of nailing President's and even department heads with improper handling of classified materials is not really practical because what is classified is at their discretion.  

If Trump believes anyone was endangering the office of the Presidency or the United States, then he will fire them.  Otherwise it is a nothingburger.  

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

That article says 0 about what the reporter actually heard.  Once again I can only conclude that you don't read your own links.  

Thank you, I've been waiting to hear some info on Signal.  Seems like this is not as unusual as people might think.  My guess is "Signal!" goes the way of "unelected!" and "young engineers!" in the pile of failed fake anger phrases ginned up by the MSM.

The MAGAs here are screaming that the journalist committed treason and should be criminally charged, and then they're screaming about him not releasing sensitive details of the text messages.

MAGAs want to have it both ways so they don't have to admit that this was a total fook up.

 

[SaintsInDome2006 264]

15 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The white house said there was no classified material discussed.  The incident is being investigated.  So any declaration on your part about it being 'SCIF' material is just made up speculation.   

Trump fired the IC Inspector General, the office that would be responsible for investigating this sort of thing in a non-partisan fashion. In fact he fired all of the inspectors general.

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20 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The President does have that authority.   The President is the ultimate authority on what is classified and the method he uses to declassify material is not covered.  The president delegates to department heads the classification of material related to their department.   The idea of nailing President's and even department heads with improper handling of classified materials is not really practical because what is classified is at their discretion.  

If Trump believes anyone was endangering the office of the Presidency or the United States, then he will fire them.  Otherwise it is a nothingburger.  

Competence and prudence, or the lack thereof is not a nothing burger.  Secured communications, even those which are non-classified but which provide insight into decision-making processes are essential to smooth governmental opoeerations.  This was a major faux pas, if true as reported.  It may have had minor consequences, but that aoppears to have been fortuitous only.  It may not have.

 

Our adversaries on the world stage are judging our competence and planning accordingly.  Hegseth may have demonstrated will and resolve, but he also demonstrates inexperience.  Which is more evident to our adversaries I cannot say.

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9 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump fired the IC Inspector General, the office that would be responsible for investigating this sort of thing in a non-partisan fashion. In fact he fired all of the inspectors general.

Now why would he do that?? 

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1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

Competence and prudence, or the lack thereof is not a nothing burger.  Secured communications, even those which are non-classified but which provide insight into decision-making processes are essential to smooth governmental opoeerations.  This was a major faux pas, if true as reported.  It may have had minor consequences, but that aoppears to have been fortuitous only.  It may not have.

 

Our adversaries on the world stage are jusging our competence and planning accordingly.  Hegseth may have demonstrated will and resolve, but he also demonstrates inexperience.  Which is more evident to our adversaries I cannot say.

Our adversaries are salivating and jerking off right now. One major catastrophe and this admin will piss itself and fall apart. America is compromised.

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Just now, Fnord said:

Now why would he do that?? 

I dunno, the multi-inducted, twice impeached, convicted criminal fired all the independent investigators. It’s a mystery.

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1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

Competence and prudence, or the lack thereof is not a nothing burger.  Secured communications, even those which are non-classified but which provide insight into decision-making processes are essential to smooth governmental opoeerations.  This was a major faux pas, if true as reported.  It may have had minor consequences, but that aoppears to have been fortuitous only.  It may not have.

 

Our adversaries on the world stage are jusging our competence and planning accordingly.  Hegseth may have demonstrated will and resolve, but he also demonstrates inexperience.  Which is more evident to our adversaries I cannot say.

It has not demonstrated anything.  Signal is loaded on their government phones as a means of encrypting text messaging.   There is nothing here except the media trying to make it into something big which it isn't. 

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Just now, jonmx said:

Signal is loaded on their government phones as a means of encrypting text messaging. 

Goldberg was reading a USG WHEO encrypted message. Really.

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Our adversaries are salivating and jerking off right now. One major catastrophe and this admin will piss itself and fall apart. America is compromised.

If they are they are not sharing the event with each other on a less than fully secure network.

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14 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump fired the IC Inspector General, the office that would be responsible for investigating this sort of thing in a non-partisan fashion. In fact he fired all of the inspectors general.

And for good reasons.  They were partisan hacks.

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Just now, jonmx said:

And for good reasons.  They were partisan hacks.

Ohhh right, all of them. Got it. It’s like Nixon on crack & wormwood.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Goldberg was reading a USG WHEO encrypted message. Really.

Whomever added him into the conversation made a reckless mistake. 

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ohhh right, all of them. Got it. It’s like Nixon on crack & wormwood.

Nixon was set up.  Nixon threaten to expose the deep state, and the deep state deep six'd him.  

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Just now, jonmx said:

Whomever added him into the conversation made a reckless mistake. 

And such recklessness is not a nothing burger, as you characterized it earlier.    Lets hope some good comes of this and they tighten up thier procedures.  I believe they will, if given the chance.  This can be a learning opportunity, if they let it be.

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1 minute ago, jonmx said:

Whomever added him into the conversation made a reckless mistake. 

That would be the DNI. Whoever appointed him is reckless. But to be clear the message wasn’t encrypted, Goldberg’s just a dude on Signal & any foreign IS can hack or monitor it. Witkoff was in the Kremlin while this was going on btw. What’s your OpSec guide say about that?

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4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

If they are they are not sharing the event with each other on a less than fully secure network.

I believe Twatadour called the targets of the bombing apes or something to that effect. Seems as though the apes have a better grasp on OPSEC than our own leaders do. So we got that going for us.

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2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Nixon was set up.  Nixon threaten to expose the deep state, and the deep state deep six'd him.  

Nixon was driven out for firing one investigator. One.

[The Real timschochet 6,144]

MSNBC is reporting that the language that both Hegseth and Leavitt used “there were no military war plans” is very precise and specific- it’s a Clintonesque denial if you will- they never said there was nothing classified revealed. This is lawyerly speak so they can cover their tracks later on. Lololol

As I wrote the initial story was uninteresting to me but the denials are making it interesting…

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3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I believe Twatadour called the targets of the bombing apes or something to that effect. Seems as though the apes have a better grasp on OPSEC than our own leaders do. So we got that going for us.

First sign of the eventual rise of the Apes?  This is not going to end well.  Worth it though if we all got ourselves one of these....

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvQ_zz9-kbs5hSAi8zO_wJcXpC67fsqPtID3CvrS_u6h_9PRK2L4tw4GYyFhEPXB0HY7X4oyt4hLc1LnnAC4UZFg3u5tpuxuMCf_mehaBCP7Aq-gcJ_Zk2F_KDK_n_hNw2tVjAeostGNn8wfRqAiU7Bqv-voA3YeoC8IkmHreQbd7HOhQ72YpXBSrD/s795/linda-harrison-8.jpeg

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Just now, Engorgeous George said:

And such recklessness is not a nothing burger, as you characterized it earlier.    Lets hope some good comes of this and they tighten up thier procedures.  I believe they will, if given the chance.  This can be a learning opportunity, if they let it be.

They need to somehow lockdown on who they can communicate with Signal.  It seems to be a well-respected program,  but being able to inadvertently being able to add someone into the conversation seems like it is ripe for leaking.  

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

MSNBC is reporting that the language that both Hegseth and Leavitt used “there were no military war plans” is very precise and specific- it’s a Clintonesque denial if you will- they never said there was nothing classified revealed. This is lawyerly speak so they can cover their tracks later on. Lololol

As I wrote the initial story was uninteresting to me but the denials are making it interesting…

Right. They didn’t post an image of a geodesic map just the what/where/when/how so hey y’all no “war plans.”

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5 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Nixon was set up.  Nixon threaten to expose the deep state, and the deep state deep six'd him.  

Listening to you is like reading a Harry Turtledove novel, except that he’s a pretty good writer and all of HIS alternative history is fun and speculative. YOUR alternative history is humorous, deluded, sad, absurd, ugly, and just total bullsh!t again and again. 

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5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

That would be the DNI. Whoever appointed him is reckless. But to be clear the message wasn’t encrypted, Goldberg’s just a dude on Signal & any foreign IS can hack or monitor it. Witkoff was in the Kremlin while this was going on btw. What’s your OpSec guide say about that?

To be clear, the message was encrypted.  That is what the app does.  

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I haven’t been following this…how did the reporter get into the group text, anyway?

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2 hours ago, jonmx said:

They need to somehow lockdown on who they can communicate with Signal.  It seems to be a well-respected program,  but being able to inadvertently being able to add someone into the conversation seems like it is ripe for leaking.  

Incomprehensible that any reporter should be in the address list.  That a reporter can be imported into a group from the general address list is stunning.  Quite an oversight.

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Just now, jonmx said:

To be clear, the message was encrypted.  That is what the app does.  

But it's not secure and can be hacked. Just stop. You're deluded and there is nothing you won't defend this admin for. Bootlicker indeed. 

[jonmx 2,418]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Listening to you is like reading a Harry Turtledove novel, except that he’s a pretty good writer and all of HIS alternative history is fun and speculative. YOUR alternative history is humorous, deluded, sad, absurd, ugly, and just total bullsh!t again and again. 

The delusional people are the idiots like you who blindly trusts what the establishment media tells you.  

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4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

First sign of the eventual rise of the Apes?  This is not going to end well.  Worth it though if we all got ourselves one of these....

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvQ_zz9-kbs5hSAi8zO_wJcXpC67fsqPtID3CvrS_u6h_9PRK2L4tw4GYyFhEPXB0HY7X4oyt4hLc1LnnAC4UZFg3u5tpuxuMCf_mehaBCP7Aq-gcJ_Zk2F_KDK_n_hNw2tVjAeostGNn8wfRqAiU7Bqv-voA3YeoC8IkmHreQbd7HOhQ72YpXBSrD/s795/linda-harrison-8.jpeg

Wait- is it a coincidence that this story only occurred a few weeks ago? 
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/south-carolina-escaped-monkeys-what-we-know/