Biden world braces for book storm

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1) This is media BS.  Here we have the media pretending they are a victim here, and portraying the Harris camp as being conniving.......BS!!

2) We have a VP for the purpose of continuity of leadership,   they should be planning for all eventualities. This is not some sinister plan.

3) Of course Harris and her ilk all lied about Biden's mental state....they politicians....this is standard.

4) The job of the media is to challenge them, not give them a pass.....so now that all the cards are on the table we see the media types trying to manipulate a narrative that they were just victims.....fock that......they were co-conspirators.....

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

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>>…In an interview yesterday with NBC News, President Donald Trump was asked whether American auto companies will be forced to raise prices given his new tariffs. His response? “I couldn’t care less if they raise prices, because people are going to start buying American-made cars,” per NBC’s Kristen Welker and Alexandra Marquez.

Trump went on: “I couldn’t care less. I hope they raise their prices, because if they do, people are gonna buy American-made cars. … f the prices on foreign cars go up, they’re going to buy American cars.”<<

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

>>…In an interview yesterday with NBC News, President Donald Trump was asked whether American auto companies will be forced to raise prices given his new tariffs. His response? “I couldn’t care less if they raise prices, because people are going to start buying American-made cars,” per NBC’s Kristen Welker and Alexandra Marquez.

Trump went on: “I couldn’t care less. I hope they raise their prices, because if they do, people are gonna buy American-made cars. … f the prices on foreign cars go up, they’re going to buy American cars.”<<

Wrong thread, if you put this over in the tariff-quimming thread I might respond.

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Wrong thread, if you put this over in the tariff-quimming thread I might respond.

It’s a quote from your link. I’ll add the Trump just eliminated the NIH’s research funding in Alzheimer’s. No need to respond. 

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I’ve always wondered who reads these biographies and memoirs of contemporary political figures? It seems like they exist solely for the media to report on.

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8 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It’s a quote from your link. I’ll add the Trump just eliminated the NIH’s research funding in Alzheimer’s. No need to respond. 

Foking idiot quotes ads thinking it was part of the article.

Trump damaged you so bad. 

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29 minutes ago, RLLD said:

1) This is media BS.  Here we have the media pretending they are a victim here, and portraying the Harris camp as being conniving.......BS!!

Just to respond appropriately, and I’ve read the piece.

You see this sort of complaint from the liberal side. When a book by a Woodward or Bolton comes out long after the information would have been useful, & they’ll say ‘oh now you tell us!’ 
 

But in the end the fault 100% lies with Biden. His time to get out was 2022, he would have been respected as a placeholder president. Instead, as he won and won well in 2020 his hubris told him he’d win again. In general his presidency, while very professionally & competently run, which is what he offered the electorate, lacked the urgency to match the issues he often talked about. We needed a Kennedy or Truman or Reagan, & we got maybe Coolidge or Ford, though really all past US comps fail in this era.

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8 minutes ago, Horseman said:

quotes adds thinking it was part of the article.

Politico Playbook’s format is run 10 or so snips about forthcoming or expected stories.

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6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Just to respond appropriately, and I’ve read the piece.

You see this sort of complaint from the liberal side. When a book by a Woodward or Bolton book comes out long after the information would have been useful, & they’ll say ‘oh now you tell us!’ 
 

But in the end the fault 100% lies with Biden. His time to get out was 2022, he would have been respected as a placeholder president. Instead, as he won and won well in 2020 his hubris told him he’d win again. In general his presidency, while very professionally & competently run, which is what he offered the electorate, lacked the urgency to match the issues he often talked about. We needed a Kennedy or Trump or Reagan, & we got maybe Coolidge or Ford, though really all past US comps fail in this era.

Perhaps Dr. Jill’s hubris?

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Politico Playbook’s format is run 10 or so snips about forthcoming or expected stories.

Oh. So you got all the info you need from a snip about a forthcoming story. You’re a very thorough, serious fellow. 

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2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Perhaps Dr. Jill’s hubris?

Actually yes, I don’t disagree.

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6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

But in the end the fault 100% lies with Biden. His time to get out was 2022, he would have been respected as a placeholder president. Instead, as he won and won well in 2020 his hubris told him he’d win again. In general his presidency, while very professionally & competently run, which is what he offered the electorate, lacked the urgency to match the issues he often talked about. We needed a Kennedy or Trump or Reagan, & we got maybe Coolidge or Ford, though really all past US comps fail in this era.

Biden was wrong for trying to run it back, especially after he told Americans he would be a transitional president. I also doubt Kamala would have been the nominee had a true primary been undertaken.

The key difference being Dems don’t have a cult figure that leads them. Frankly it would have been a tough road for any Dem, because no candidate would have received the fervent, unquestioned support like Republicans currently have. We’ll see what happens in 2028 when Republicans have no choice but to choose another candidate. 

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Opening the borders during a pandemic was a stroke of genius. 

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26 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh. So you got all the info you need from a snip about a forthcoming story. You’re a very thorough, serious fellow. 

I didn’t post the link, but it’s the same link which forms the basis of the OP. The story about Trump actively working to raise prices is above the Biden story. The same piece features below the Biden book story a report about a new organization that will attack Republican Congressmen who criticize former cable tv morning news host Hegseth. The Biden book story being juxtaposed between these two stories just highlights the absurd choice the electorate made.

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39 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Politico Playbook’s format is run 10 or so snips about forthcoming or expected stories.

Right, in other words ads. And if it says Trump in it you won't be able to see the forrest of the OP through the Trump tree. This thread is about books coming out on Bidens term and his 2024 campaign, not Trump. 

 Holy fok you're broken. 

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2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Right, in other words adds. 

Sorry do you mean ad as in advertisement? Or add-in or additional? Yes the Playbook series runs a number of stories as quick snippets.

I do get your point, which is taken. Have a good one.

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47 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’ve always wondered who reads these biographies and memoirs of contemporary political figures? It seems like they exist solely for the media to report on.

Just like the Hunter Biden "art", it's legal money laundering/kickbacks for towing the company line.

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41 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Just to respond appropriately, and I’ve read the piece.

You see this sort of complaint from the liberal side. When a book by a Woodward or Bolton comes out long after the information would have been useful, & they’ll say ‘oh now you tell us!’ 
 

But in the end the fault 100% lies with Biden. His time to get out was 2022, he would have been respected as a placeholder president. Instead, as he won and won well in 2020 his hubris told him he’d win again. In general his presidency, while very professionally & competently run, which is what he offered the electorate, lacked the urgency to match the issues he often talked about. We needed a Kennedy or Truman or Reagan, & we got maybe Coolidge or Ford, though really all past US comps fail in this era.

Oy vey. 

You can't SERIOUSLY  believe that.  You guys are in a cult.

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Just like the Hunter Biden "art", it's legal money laundering/kickbacks for towing the company line.

And when the actual President of the USA puts out a bitcoin that his company is a primary investor in with other investors, including international ones, by a factor of 1000x more value, what is that called?

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

>>…In an interview yesterday with NBC News, President Donald Trump was asked whether American auto companies will be forced to raise prices given his new tariffs. His response? “I couldn’t care less if they raise prices, because people are going to start buying American-made cars,” per NBC’s Kristen Welker and Alexandra Marquez.

Trump went on: “I couldn’t care less. I hope they raise their prices, because if they do, people are gonna buy American-made cars. … f the prices on foreign cars go up, they’re going to buy American cars.”<<

According to your link, this is the headline: "Trump says he ‘couldn’t care less’ if foreign automakers raise prices due to tariffs"

Looks like Trump was actually asked about the coast of FOREIGN cars, not American.  I agree with Trump's agenda.  Foreign car companies will raise their prices and people will buy American.  Sounds good to me. 

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8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

And when the actual President of the USA puts out a bitcoin that his company is a primary investor in with other investors, including international ones, by a factor of 1000x more value, what is that called?

Sounds like American politics.  You know, the same thing you (nor your party/media), had no problem with when Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc, did it.  Either we call it out ALL the time or don't pick and choose.  If you want to stand on your pedestal of moral superiority, it's best to not be a hypocrite.

Personally, I have less of a problem with Trump because the everyday American public can benefit from this as well.  What the Democrats have done, only helps the party, the media, and their big donation contributors.

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13 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Just like the Hunter Biden "art", it's legal money laundering/kickbacks for towing the company line.

Or Saudi Arabia giving $2b to Jared Kushner’s private equity form.

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15 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Oy vey. 

You can't SERIOUSLY  believe that.  You guys are in a cult.

He believes it.  He's been broken for over a decade now.  Trump created mental health issues in that guy.

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It’s a quote from your link. I’ll add the Trump just eliminated the NIH’s research funding in Alzheimer’s. No need to respond. 

Thats nice, I am more inclined in this thread to discuss what I posted, which is the media now wanted to absolve itself.

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Or Saudi Arabia giving $2b to Jared Kushner’s private equity form.

Did the House Oversight Committee in 2022, chaired by Democrats find any wrong doing in that?

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Just to respond appropriately, and I’ve read the piece.

You see this sort of complaint from the liberal side. When a book by a Woodward or Bolton comes out long after the information would have been useful, & they’ll say ‘oh now you tell us!’ 
 

But in the end the fault 100% lies with Biden. His time to get out was 2022, he would have been respected as a placeholder president. Instead, as he won and won well in 2020 his hubris told him he’d win again. In general his presidency, while very professionally & competently run, which is what he offered the electorate, lacked the urgency to match the issues he often talked about. We needed a Kennedy or Truman or Reagan, & we got maybe Coolidge or Ford, though really all past US comps fail in this era.

Yes and no.

I try to be as fair as possible, and call out only the real elements.

In this instance am I going to fault Biden?  No....that is not reasonable IMHO.   The people around Biden, who propped him up, who were really running the show are the ones we should consider "the problem".

But setting that aside.

The media are supposed to advocate on our behalf to hold power accountable.  Instead they collaborated with those people behind the scenes propping Biden up. The did not serve the people in their role.  Yet now they want to portray themselves as victims, and I call BS on that. 

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Wrong thread, if you put this over in the tariff-quimming thread I might respond.

It's not @SaintsInDome2006's fault that he's a sheep.  The line in the article says that Trump was asked about AMERICAN auto makers, but the link they share (hoping sheep like him don't click on it), clearly is titled "Trump says he ‘couldn’t care less’ if foreign automakers raise prices due to tariffs"

 

Politco.com purposefully mislead their readers.

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It's not @SaintsInDome2006's fault that he's a sheep.  The line in the article says that Trump was asked about AMERICAN auto makers, but the link they share (hoping sheep like him don't click on it), clearly is titled "Trump says he ‘couldn’t care less’ if foreign automakers raise prices due to tariffs"

Not an issue, I understand the inclination to latch on to the political over the actual. I am trying to move him toward a conversation.

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18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Sounds like American politics.  You know, the same thing you (nor your party/media), had no problem with when Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc, did it.  Either we call it out ALL the time or don't pick and choose.  If you want to stand on your pedestal of moral superiority, it's best to not be a hypocrite.

Personally, I have less of a problem with Trump because the everyday American public can benefit from this as well.  What the Democrats have done, only helps the party, the media, and their big donation contributors.

I’m glad to shake on principle but are you arguing that public officials - and their children - should be able to receive private, non-traceable money in unlimited amounts from whatever source? Or should that be a crime?

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3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Did the House Oversight Committee in 2022, chaired by Democrats find any wrong doing in that?

Yes, they said it crossed ethical lines and tried to investigate further but Kushner stonewalled and you can forget about it going anywhere with Trump in office. Kushner’s firm is still receiving investments from Saudi Arabia along with Qatar and Abu Dhabi.

HTH

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I’m glad to shake on principle but are you arguing that public officials - and their children - should be able to receive private, non-traceable money in unlimited amounts from whatever source? Or should they be a crime?

I'm not saying the should be, I'm saying they are allowed.  It's a problem I have with the government.  It's why I will never trust any politician to actually care about the country.  I will however feel that one cares more than the other.  I don't think the Democrats care at all about this country.  In fact, I think they're actively trying to hurt it.

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

Yes, they said it crossed ethical lines and tried to investigate further but Kushner stonewalled and you can forget about it going anywhere with Trump in office. Kushner’s firm is still receiving investments from Saudi Arabia along with Qatar and Abu Dhabi.

HTH

So political bias wins out?

Shocker!!!

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Not an issue, I understand the inclination to latch on to the political over the actual. I am trying to move him toward a conversation.

He won't, because he knows his side lied and he still voted for it... all the while condemning Republican's who voted for any of their candidates, who lied.

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6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

So political bias wins out?

Shocker!!!

Hunter Biden selling his chitty artwork is kickbacks but Jared Kushner getting billions in foreign investments is fine.

You focking donkey.  

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8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It's not @SaintsInDome2006's fault that he's a sheep.  The line in the article says that Trump was asked about AMERICAN auto makers, but the link they share (hoping sheep like him don't click on it), clearly is titled "Trump says he ‘couldn’t care less’ if foreign automakers raise prices due to tariffs"

 

Politco.com purposefully mislead their readers.

American automakers import massive amounts of parts that are foreign-made. Tariffs will not only raise the price on foreign cars, but domestic as well.

By the time the factories and other investments these companies have promised to initiate in the US come to fruition, Trump will be out of office and those companies may or may not actually go through with their pledges. Unless Trump and his cohort figure out how to get that holy grail third term, of course. In which case we will have much bigger problems than not being able to afford a new car.

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18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'm not saying the should be, I'm saying they are allowed.  It's a problem I have with the government.  It's why I will never trust any politician to actually care about the country.  I will however feel that one cares more than the other.  I don't think the Democrats care at all about this country.  In fact, I think they're actively trying to hurt it.

Well IMO just reading that you’re in favor of it and yes I get your point about government inaction and bias. It’s a serious difference in values for me. IMO it *should be illegal but also it is illegal in many instances & in a couple places it’s strictly forbidden by the Constitution. It’s fine though, I think it’s a lot easier to talk like this.

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49 minutes ago, MDC said:

Hunter Biden selling his chitty artwork is kickbacks but Jared Kushner getting billions in foreign investments is fine.

You focking donkey.  

I didn't say that.  What I'm saying is... no one on the left had a problem with Hunter, but they have a problem with Kushner.  Either it's a problem for both or neither.  I think it's a problem for both, but the hypocracy on the left apparently says otherwise.

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48 minutes ago, Fnord said:

American automakers import massive amounts of parts that are foreign-made. Tariffs will not only raise the price on foreign cars, but domestic as well.

By the time the factories and other investments these companies have promised to initiate in the US come to fruition, Trump will be out of office and those companies may or may not actually go through with their pledges. Unless Trump and his cohort figure out how to get that holy grail third term, of course. In which case we will have much bigger problems than not being able to afford a new car.

So to be clear, Trump's tariffs on foreign imports is going to force American automakers increase their prices because they're using foreign countries to make their parts and/or vehicles.  Trump incentivizing those companies to bring production back to the US by not imposing those tariffs on domestic made parts and automobiles while creating more jobs domestically and cheaper American automobiles.... that's Trump's fault and not the American automakers fault?

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42 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Well IMO just reading that you’re in favor of it and yes I get your point about government inaction and bias. It’s a serious difference in values for me. IMO it *should be illegal but also it is illegal in many instances & in a couple places it’s strictly forbidden by the Constitution. It’s fine though, I think it’s a lot easier to talk like this.

I said they shouldn't be, but are allowed to... and you think I said that I'm in favor of it?

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8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I didn't say that.  What I'm saying is... no one on the left had a problem with Hunter, but they have a problem with Kushner.  Either it's a problem for both or neither.  I think it's a problem for both, but the hypocracy on the left apparently says otherwise.

If Democratic donors want to pay $50k for a Hunter Biden painting in the hopes that his dad will look favorably on it, that’s wrong but also so routine in DC I really can’t GAF. I suppose it’s the same sort of thing as Kushner’s firm raking in billions, just at a far smaller scale and not involving foreign governments. His work for Burisma is a lot closer.

His crappy artwork ranks pretty low on the list of ethics concerns. Plenty of hypocrisy to go around.